Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[Farrell]

See thats the kicker. Alot of people here are defending BRD as the worst DD class based on spreadsheet dps from stand still fights or even wooden dummies. Sure, MNKs will get some pretty nice damage when they're not running everywhere and avoiding as much as possible. But a majority of fights are based around mobility atm, so in practical damage output BRD is really up there.

Majority of fights based around movement? I just did turn one and turn two of coil. Dps hardly moves either one of those boss fights. Titan, sure everyone is moving like crazy and there is a real difference in that fight, but not many fights are like Titan in the entire game. Mages wish they didn't have to channel, and melee hates the world and all living creatures pretty much. That is what these threads tell me. I can't wait for melee to get on to the next set of complaints for this game.

[Leraje]

don't worry guys, I'm sure they'll compensate the nerf.

*Hawk's eye now also increases 15% int and mind and 20% magical accuracy, previously only 15% dex and physical accuracy.

Is that change already in the game or will be changed with the incoming content changes
Asking for a friend because he would be happy about it

[Alcide]

What's really pissing me off is that seeing the char profiles of most of the people in favor of the nerf it's pretty clear that they haven't step foot into coil yet, so I'm quite sure they're a bit upset cause they can't get past Titan and they blame the fight and they rage looking at those bards running around avoiding everything.

reality check: you're just bad.

If you care to transfer to Ragnarok I can show you how to avoid everything as a dragoon and still stay 100% of the time at melee range, let's say 90% if you're really unlucky with 3 lines bombs.

Let's get things straight, bard might be a support class in any other FF/RPG/MMO but here it's a hybrid job, both support and dps, its damage is already lower than any other dps and it gets even lower when he's using his support skills and that's ok. If you think it's unfair that he can avoid AoE better than your job, having him nerfed will not improve your perfomances and if there's someone with your same job that can do it while being top dps than you're the problem, not the fight.

Honestly I really don't care about the nerf, I actually think having conjurer as a subclass would give the whole group a nice boost for nasty situations, but all of these people claiming bard is OP are really pissing me off. If you're bad you'll still be bad after bard gets nerfed.

[mushashi]

What's really pissing me off is that seeing the char profiles of most of the people in favor of the nerf it's pretty clear that they haven't step foot into coil yet

first,bards are OP and yoshi know it so shut up and get the nerf.
second,i have cleared all coil i am a dragon and i think that bards are broken and MUST be nerfed,when every raid have 1-3 bards u know that something is wrong.
and i u are criying for facts,in turn 2 many times i have to go with my bard ofspec because i can cancel cast where i cant with my dragon.and with my dragon i have to evade big circle around boss,lines,frontal aoe and the big final aoe on last phase and i must get one aoe in allways when i do the LB if i am not lucky and pull 200-250 dps(only 200 or so with no limit) where with my bard i can faceroll the dps only dodging ONE line while doing songs for my heals and pulling 190-210 dps.
i dont think that bards should get a damage nerf but heavy shot must get a cast time

[Thotor]

What's really pissing me off is that seeing the char profiles of most of the people in favor of the nerf it's pretty clear that they haven't step foot into coil yet, so I'm quite sure they're a bit upset cause they can't get past Titan and they blame the fight and they rage looking at those bards running around avoiding everything.

I can pretty much say the same for every Bard saying that a nerf is unjustified have not set foot in coil or do not even have lancer lvl 34.

If you have done everything up to turn 5 and fail to see how melee has a huge disadvantage, there is nothing I can do for you.

[Woodberry]

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Bards have their stationary dps increased to match the other dps and have their movement dps nerfed. This would actually be a quality of life improvement.

You could focus solely on moving during movement phases.

[Sibe]

the nerf is legit

usually the party for binding coil is: 2 tank, 2 healer, 2/4 bard+maybe 1 blm/melee
what will happen in 2.1 with this mentality for the new raid? 2 tank, 4 healer, 18 bard????

bard isn't taken for the utility, but because they haven't animation skill delay like other class and they can dps in safe spot without take any damage
but them dps is hight then other class only because that 0 animation skill delay, they can't or not want fix the animation delay for the other class, so better nerf damage

this is not the better solution but it is legit at least

[Woodberry]

the nerf is legit

usually the party for binding coil is: 2 tank, 2 healer, 2/4 bard+maybe 1 blm/melee
what will happen in 2.1 with this mentality for the new raid? 2 tank, 4 healer, 18 bard????

bard isn't taken for the utility, but because they haven't animation skill delay like other class and they can dps in safe spot without take any damage
but them dps is hight then other class only because that 0 animation skill delay, they can't or not want fix the animation delay for the other class, so better nerf damage

this is not the better solution but it is legit at least

I'm confused here, what makes you think bards have no animation skill delay?

[AegisXI]

The fact is, that BRDs can do high DPS and keep up with melee dps and avoid from getting hit. Also... if ur not top DPS on brd, then ur playing the whole job wrong, or u just suck

[Relapse]

The fact is, that BRDs can do high DPS and keep up with melee dps and avoid from getting hit. Also... if ur not top DPS on brd, then ur playing the whole job wrong, or u just suck

A perfect example of someone who has no idea the DPS differences and the capability all the other classes have. At this point I don't even care I've moved on and geared out my Summoner. Not only is it the top DPS class in the game currently by margins with a pet that pulls DPS equal to a Coil geared tank but I have just as much mobility aside from 2 dots that have to be cast while standing still. On top of that I get amazing utility, the ability to heal myself, and an AoE Limit Breaker.