Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Casterbridge]

Could I ask what kind of range of DPS an average Dragoon should be doing in Coil at the various bosses/mini bosses?

I realize it varies depending on gear and party strategy, but it would be nice to know if I'm within the ball park or possibly doing something horribly wrong.

[Arland]

Could I ask what kind of range of DPS an average Dragoon should be doing in Coil at the various bosses/mini bosses?

I realize it varies depending on gear and party strategy, but it would be nice to know if I'm within the ball park or possibly doing something horribly wrong.

Only parsed in turn 4 thus far and i was around +/- 220dps.

[Foullacy]

spreadsheet stuff

The rotation you're using in the spreadsheet, what happened to us using Fracture?

[Lundrai]

The rotation you're using in the spreadsheet, what happened to us using Fracture?

Any rotation being used in this spreadsheet is basically experimentation. The rotation can be easily modified. Each ability on each half-GCD is a drop down box so you can build any rotation you like.

[Mikai]

Hi Ayver. Im having some issues with my drg. I made macro's outta that huge list for the final form setup rotation. I keep being last or second last in the p[arser and cant figure out why at all. help me out plz

[Vodomir]

Hi Ayver. Im having some issues with my drg. I made macro's outta that huge list for the final form setup rotation. I keep being last or second last in the p[arser and cant figure out why at all. help me out plz

Because you just don't macro your rotation as a Dragoon. As far as I know /wait only uses integer numbers, so you'll be wasting a whole lot of time between your GCD skills (0.5 seconds or even more, depending on your skill speed). I also don't know if or how your macro makes use of off-GCD skills. I would strongly suggest to not use macros as DRG. Learn how to do the rotation without macros and remember that positioning is key to certain skills.

Also being last or second last in the parser doesn't really account for anything, as none of the available parsers is working 100% correct (due to the combat log not properly tracing all of the damage, namely DoT damage). And it also all boil down to you running with much better geared people, in which case no rotation in the world can help you to close the gap, unless you get yourself better gear.

[EasymodeX]

Also being last or second last in the parser doesn't really account for anything, as none of the available parsers is working 100% correct (due to the combat log not properly tracing all of the damage, namely DoT damage).

As I told my FC last night: if I'm on the top of the parser then it's working 100% accurately. If I'm not, it's totally buggy and not counting my damage. ^_-

Edit: But the parser is useful for broad ballpark estimates of how badly you're doing. Just don't take the individual numbers or numbers between two different classes too seriously. Unless you're beating another class that has 2 tiers higher gear than you. Then feel free to roflololo, but try not to be a douchebag.

[Sygmaelle]

Back on the limit break topic, there were some theories about monk's LB being stronger than dragoon's LB. Is there any truth to that?

So would it matter if everyone activated at once all their damage buffs at the moment the DPS uses the LB?

That's something that totally worth a test imho And as someone mentionned, if you got relic+1, your lb will do more damage

[Maero]

A lot of useful info here for a job that none wants to bring to coil...

What reason do people have or they just hate Dragoons?

[Casterbridge]

What reason do people have or they just hate Dragoons?

From whatI've seen the big issues is the fights are generally unfriendly to melee. Next a lot of the dragoon utility is useless in the raid. Most believe a monk has better single target damage than dragoon (not saying this is true or untrue just stating popular opinion I've seen) also the monk has slightly better usable utility.

So, especially in PuG groups, dragoons are pretty much bottom of the barrel choice wise, with monks close behind, it's just easier to bring ranged dps, think the most popular groups formed right now are 2x paladins, 2x bard, 1x BM, 1x other ranged, 1x White Mage and 1x Scholar.

Again this is what I'm seeing as popular opinion, doesn't mean a dragoon can't go in and do well in Coil.