Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Ayvar]

Can u explain parsing?

[Thorauku]

Just a report,

I had a miss Heavy Thrust in T5 Scourge with 473 ACC. Can't provide any proofs, but yeah.

[PArcher]

For Titan, I always will use BFB after a Stomp, except at the very beginning or during the Heart Phase (use it right away in the beginning, Heart I try use it when it comes up, but may hold it for after the Gaols if timing is off), just to ensure its not up at that time. I'll also hold it for the Superbomb.

[Mardel]

^ Don't stick around the gaolers too long though. If you get gooped and that landslide comes your way from them not being killed fast enough. GG


Side note:
I got my boots/spear this week! Both in one go
Now my drg has all maiming pieces (cept belt). Would sink myth for wyrm body but idk seems kind of pointless, when I could start working on healer since my warrior/blm are pretty much done too >.>;

[Sygmaelle]

For those with high ilv gears (85-90) and not caring about acc, how's your dps on extreme primals? There seems to be a lot of downtime and most of the other class of equivalent ilv gears outdps me (based in order of emnity). Is this supposed to be the case?

I got a pretty crazy accuracy amount (500 ish T_T) because I really can't play in CT (far too boring ) and no luck in turn 4 / 5 so far, but I still can answer your question : between 270 and 310 dps on titan X (310 was the highest I did, but hey 2 warriors tanking so their debuff was up a lot), consistantly. No lb yadda yadda.

On Ifrit usually, by the time I do ID - Dis - legsweep or Ph the nail im attackin is already destroyed. No need to use TTT whatsoever

[Ihm]

I got a pretty crazy accuracy amount (500 ish T_T) because I really can't play in CT (far too boring ) and no luck in turn 4 / 5 so far, but I still can answer your question : between 270 and 310 dps on titan X (310 was the highest I did, but hey 2 warriors tanking so their debuff was up a lot), consistantly. No lb yadda yadda.

On Ifrit usually, by the time I do ID - Dis - legsweep or Ph the nail im attackin is already destroyed. No need to use TTT whatsoever

What Warrior debuff are you referring to? Storm's Eye doesn't affect us if that's what you're referring to.

[VaShawn]

Guys, can I use 2 hot bars at once? Using a gamepad and I'm out of slots! Can I keep a second bar on screen for buffs only? And use gamepad while clicking on on second bar (buffs) with mouse?

[whiskeybravo]

Woot. Got those Allagan Gauntlets of Maiming last night First clear on T1-2 (yea I know, way behind)

Guys, can I use 2 hot bars at once? Using a gamepad and I'm out of slots! Can I keep a second bar on screen for buffs only? And use gamepad while clicking on on second bar (buffs) with mouse?

The best bet is using the expanded hotbar option so that holding L2 + R2 give you an additional 8 actions. That's where I put the less used abilities like Second Wind, Invigorate, Elusive jump (all on D-pad buttons) and also the AoE moves (Heavy Thrust on same button as normal bar, then Ring of thorns, Doomspike and Dragonfire Dive on the face buttons). Should have enough space on the main bar for everything else (side note, I use the same layout for both sides so it doesn't matter which trigger I pull first but its personal preference)

If not, you could look at maco'ing in some abilities like Internal Release and Bloodbath into Vorpal Thrust and Full Thrust which would use them on cooldown. I would avoid macro'ing into True Thrust as I've noticed a tendency of it not registering the attack towards the combo (specifically on Heavy Swing w/ Warrior)

[Sygmaelle]

Oh meh thought it was the case for storm's eye

[Eclips]

I see what you're saying EMX but I can't help but keep in mind that this game was made for a ps3. All of the math / strategies you put out here are good in theory, but I can't see a practical use for this unless you're in a dot heavy group composition. I'll give your strategy a try in the next ifrit extreme I do, but I feel like I'm going to lose a lot of damage / autoattack uptime on nails when I have to move to dot the 3rd nail and go in reverse once I reach the searing wind nails. Does every ph you use tick all the way out? I just can't see the 3rd and 4th nails lasting 18s when the rest of the dps are just assisting them down.

I feel like you're getting confused about why I use ID/DE. The piercing debuff is a moot point as it is still a consistent 400 potency in 2 gcds as you make your way around. In most all of the groups that I've downed ifrit extreme with, (as drg, blm, whm, and pld), the nails only last 2 globals per as long as people are assisting. Sometimes they die even quicker when a BLM is on his game. This gives me about 5 seconds on the first nail, 5 seconds on the next nail, and bam, the group is on the 3rd nail by the 10 second mark. That one dies in 2 gcds, the next in 2 gcds, etc.

Maybe if the group DPS is very low I could see that you would be maximizing dps this way, but when you have 3 other competent DPS in your group, the tab-dotting strategy becomes very ineffective.