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    EasymodeX's Avatar
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    In an ideal situation, you would dynamically recover with maximum uptime on buffs and debuffs.

    The idea of maintaining a "rotation" at all is intended to reduce the complexity of handling that type of situation by providing a "pretty good" plan of attack regardless of what occurs in the fight.

    The interesting thing about FF14 DRG mechanics is that all abilities are "similarish" to each other. The lowest "loose" (unchained) damage attack does 170p. The strongest attack chain averages at 253. Weakest at 217. Strongest loose GCD is 290. Every 3 seconds of clipped DOT is a mere 20 potency. That's a tenth of an attack.

    Even if you clip HALF your Heavy Thrust buff, it still does 170 direct and roughly 80 bonus potency on other attacks. That's 250. That's fine. It's not perfect, but it's fine. Clipping half of your Phlebotomize (as long as the clip doesn't fail), still nets you 230. Again, it's fine.

    Flubbing a positional or chain will cost you heavily though. Missing a positional sinks you down to 100 potency, instead of >200. Flubbing a chain will drop you to 100, instead of 300 or more potency. Those two errors will drop your DPS more than any optimizing or clipping or lower uptime on buffs/debuffs.

    So don't sweat it, and when shit hits the fan, just Thrust.
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    Manako Areadbhar
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I'm not sure if this helps people, but I had started out having trouble with my positional, especially on smaller models and on hound lights.

    There is a little arrow that indicates front-facing which appears on every targeted mob, including ones that float. For grounded mobs you can see a broken ring, the broken area is their backside. Typically at the end of my prae runs I have tons of trouble getting back facing for the last boss because he's so tiny, he spins, and there are special effects so I've started really relying on those arrows as a guide.
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    Vansair Thewhite
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Unknowing i have been doing this thankfully. great write up.
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    Lady Lodbrok
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 50
    you should reach more than 450 crit while also capping out on accuracy pretty easily (base crit is 341)

    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/2180

    priorities were 470+ acc>str>det>crit>ss

    revised my gear set list. this is my idea of bis for anyone clearing turn 4. maiming bracelets drop in turn 5, so even though they're better they're not listed. boots have an unconfirmed drop location, but turn 5 seems unlikely (2x maiming in turn 5 when theres 8 slots left for 8 other classes, it wouldn't fit the pattern, but we'll see lol)

    the set does end up making you have a 2.48s gcd though lol. tbh im reconsidering skill speed, since at times the extra skill speed can make the difference between hitting a buffed HT (clipping HT with 1s left=good imo) or hitting an unbuffed right as it wears out. same with hitting something like a full thrust around 1s-2s left on HT, or reapplying disembowel while it has 1-2s left on timer. it's all anecdotal though
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    Last edited by himehime; 10-03-2013 at 12:20 AM.

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    Silvano Conri
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Pretty much what I use, only thing I'd mention is that if you use Bloodbath (I guess instead of Mercy Stroke for a Cross Class?), Bloodbath+CT+Phleb+Fracture makes a nice Regen for anyone who is having trouble dodging attacks and/or tumults on Titan to take some stress off the healers.
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    Vita Rena
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 70
    What is the minimum accuracy needed for Coil turn 1?
    Currently my DRG is full DL and will be getting my Gae Bolg +1 later today
    My current gear is this http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2781385/
    I am planning to replace the rest of the accessories to DL http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/2558/DRG-(Acc-455)
    but that will only get my accuracy to 455 though, any advise?
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    Lady Lodbrok
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    get a crafted chestpiece/belt/glove set and meld acc into it, or start buying acc food for coil (stuffed cabbage/toad legs, 17-22 NQ)
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    Fancy Bish
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    Famfrit
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Is there a definitive BIS list for Dragoons? I know some other people in this thread have posted different BIS lists based on high crit and det, but I have also seen people come up with BIS based on Skill Speed and was very curious how that would turn out. I guess what I'm asking is it cuz of incorrect parsers we don't have a definitive BIS list or because not everyone has all the gear to test it out yet? If there is a correct BIS utilizing Coil + Myth gear, it would look great on the OP page. =)
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    Ayvar Bjornstad
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by FancyPants View Post
    Is there a definitive BIS list for Dragoons? I know some other people in this thread have posted different BIS lists based on high crit and det, but I have also seen people come up with BIS based on Skill Speed and was very curious how that would turn out. I guess what I'm asking is it cuz of incorrect parsers we don't have a definitive BIS list or because not everyone has all the gear to test it out yet? If there is a correct BIS utilizing Coil + Myth gear, it would look great on the OP page. =)
    I believe Easy's BiS list from several pages back is based on maximizing stat weights as opposed to aiming for maximizing one specific stat. I'll wait for him to confirm that. If that is the case then hitting your accuracy cap while having the mix of gear that provides the highest overall stat score (based on weightings) would be the best choice. If people think it'd be useful to have that list in the guide then I'm happy to add it in.
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    Last edited by Ayvar; 10-03-2013 at 10:04 PM.

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    Loki Ragnarok
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    Do dragoons even use mp skills because i have little over 650 mp and i have not seen any. My pug is lvl19 and my mar is lvl15 so unless they get mp useing cross-class skills at higher levels such mp is pointless, and no i have not put any points in INT/MIN/PIE.
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