Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Dervy]

The set I've made is perfect for me IMO. Stacked heavy on DET, good Strength and enough SS for 9GDC BFBs. Btw:

My best T12 so far with my new set:


Yeah, the other DPS were low, but they were messing around for the majority of it whilst I was trying my hardest to push phases ;_;

[ziddyt]

Dervy, I love you and your work but it's GCD, not GDC.
/offtopic

[Dervy]

Nuuuuuuuuuuu I'll never change my ways!

[rickyguo]

you don't really want to push phases though ROFL

the best dps you'll ever get is if you kill it right before the second dodge phase

[Dervy]

you don't really want to push phases though ROFL

the best dps you'll ever get is if you kill it right before the second dodge phase

But that's what I mean. If I don't push as hard as I can, we end up getting a 3rd jump. Then I just go cry in a corner.

[Zeviand]

Parsed 555 in t12 last night with fully melded crafted helm and waist with the rest of the pieces being bis i130 det set. I unfortunately got targeted with a blue fire or two and lost a bit of dps moving away. I find different things to do every time I go through these FCOB encounters, I love it. My personal favorite is saving DFD for that first blackfire and having heavy thrust > comboed ring of thorns line up with exactly when the blackfires get the vulnerability debuff. Nice to see the numbers shoot up to 700+

[rickyguo]

Parsed 555 in t12 last night with fully melded crafted helm and waist with the rest of the pieces being bis i130 det set. I unfortunately got targeted with a blue fire or two and lost a bit of dps moving away. I find different things to do every time I go through these FCOB encounters, I love it. My personal favorite is saving DFD for that first blackfire and having heavy thrust > comboed ring of thorns line up with exactly when the blackfires get the vulnerability debuff. Nice to see the numbers shoot up to 700+

all the blackfires die from a scholar bane

you'd get higher raid dps if you dfd the first bennu and phoenix

[Zeviand]

all the blackfires die from a scholar bane

you'd get higher raid dps if you dfd the first bennu and phoenix

Here's the vid. If we were somehow struggling on raid dps or getting the first bennu down I would DFD the boss and the bennu but it was a pug and I was padding my digits bro!

http://www.twitch.tv/ugotperked/c/6509558

[AyaLiz]

I'm not particularly fond of the entire potency per second math surrounding cooldown usage. It works perfectly fine if you assume the fight duration to be infinite, but realistically, you have a general idea of how quickly your group finishes an encounter and you can build your cooldown usage around that time frame.

For instance, let's say you're doing T10. In T10 you generally always have something to hit so you can pop cooldowns as they come up if you so desire. Let's say your group took around 390 seconds to clear in recent runs.

If you were to pop blood for blood any time you can, you'd pop it 0, 80, 160, 240 and 320 seconds into the fight (I am aware that nobody actually pops it right on pull but that's not the point here. you can change the numbers as needed). In order not to lose any blood for blood uptime, popping it 370 seconds into the fight is the latest point in time to do so. What that means for you is that there is a 50 second window (pushing the last blood for blood from 320 to 370 seconds) across the entire fight where blood for blood can be up and you can delay using it without any consequences as you don't hit the 370 second mark on your last blood for blood usage unless you go beyond 50 seconds. For this particular fight duration, you could most likely set up a perfect or near perfect sequence of GCDs for each of your blood for bloods - losing absolutely nothing in the process.

You'd probably want to assume that there is a window for the fight's duration (for instance, 380 seconds to 400 seconds if your group tends to finish at around 390 seconds) but I believe that planning out your cooldown usage based on fight duration will yield better results than assuming that each GCD you delay cooldowns by results in an inherent potency per second loss and cooldowns should always be popped within 2 GCDs.

[Dervy]

I'm not particularly fond of the entire potency per second math surrounding cooldown usage.370 second

Napkin math time.

Let's assume you have an SS of 391, or 2.452 skillspeed. Let's now also assume that you're using your first BFB at the beginning of the encounter as that is when your damage is most impactful (more oCDs and buffs stack multiplicatively).

If you want to ensure that you're landing your final BFB on 370s (which is a waste of CT ticks, thus an adjustment of rotation timing to do X2 TTTT), 50/2.452 = 19.667 global cooldowns, or a 4.9 global cooldown delay each time, for the 2nd - 4th BFB to land your final BFB on 370s.

The next thing you need to consider is the impact of BFB on the rotation - delaying it by 5GCDs, the overall net potency is a decrease of around 600.

So not only are you having to delay each BFB by around 12s or 5GCDs, but the overall potency is a huge decrease, and its even lower if you have to consider you're doing x2 TTT in the end, which is an even further 150ish potency loss.

This in itself tells me it is not worth waiting at all, UNLESS you're withholding BFB to push phases or waiting to use them at certain times in the encounter. Of course this is in a stable environment, but holding BFB in the manner you described is not worth it.

Having said that, Potency Per Second is a metric used to gauge how effective one possible rotation impacts your overall DPS. If it weren't for PPS, we wouldn't of known MANY things about how to play the Dragoon and players would still be complaining how crap their DPS was if it weren't for people making models of our rotation.

PPS isn't something you follow like a Bible. They're just tools for you to keep in mind and execute accordingly. Its one thing being a Text-Book DPS, it's a completely different beast to be a skilled DPS who sets trends.