Pipe Dreams: Expanding the healer pool

[IndigoDarkwolf]

so many people are suggesting classes that specialize in one nook of a healer, i.e. group heals vs. single-target heals; slow, high heals vs. fast, low heals; etc. You're welcome to disagree, but I view all of these as integral parts of a good healing job. If you don't have all of them, you're missing something. In a large group, you can always have one of each specialized healer, but for normal content you only have one healer--not 5, as with DPS.

This argument is just a re-hash of "WHM should be onry healer because I say so".

1. I never said a new healer shouldn't have a diverse array of healing powers.
2. The new, larger, 24-character content will almost certainly require multiple healers.
3. I would observe that the WHM already is a specialized healer, casting single-target heals and casting targeted AoE damage mitigation. (There might have been a small AoE on its heals, but it's small enough that standing 90 degrees to a monster will put you outside of it.) If you want targeted AoE HoTs, you want the BRD, though that's a far cry from primary healing.

[Mychael]

This argument is just a re-hash of "WHM should be onry healer because I say so".

1. I never said a new healer shouldn't have a diverse array of healing powers.
2. The new, larger, 24-character content will almost certainly require multiple healers.
3. I would observe that the WHM already is a specialized healer, casting single-target heals and casting targeted AoE damage mitigation. (There might have been a small AoE on its heals, but it's small enough that standing 90 degrees to a monster will put you outside of it.) If you want targeted AoE HoTs, you want the BRD, though that's a far cry from primary healing.

You're free to disagree, but your arguments are just a re-hash of "WHM should not be onry healer because I say so."

Or have only one kind of HP to keep from depleting. You're forgetting damage mitigation, siphoning, defensive triggers, modes of healing, borrows, reversals, any manner of ability or style of ability that keeps people from dying. Curative magic has its own style. It's quick, powerful, easily re-sized. If Conjurer's (or by extension WHM) also made more out of their light elements, those two could be used for damage mitigation, between the offensive (interrupting casts via ARR Water) and defensive (creating earth shields on allies or a whirl of air to intercept ranged attacks, so and and so forth). Having another style of healing will not kill WHM. Having another curative healer would likely get close, just as having another fist-fighter would put Pugilist in a hard position to remain unique.

Actually I suggested those kinds of things a few pages ago. I was just answering the question.

[IndigoDarkwolf]

Tu quoque

Although I suppose a better argument earlier on my part would have been to point out that singling out my reference to HoTs as though it invalidated my entire argument was very strawman and black and white.

For my part, I got distracted and forgot that we're sort of on the same side of the fence.

TL;DR: By all means, add another healer.

So, I'm sorry. Though I do still think that, asides from that, you sounded as though you want WHM to have every type of heal possible and be the only healing job, just because.

Edit: We're probably at some kind of impasse, which I guess is the whole problem with arguing on the internet: Nobody wins, everyone loses.

[Mychael]

So, I'm sorry. Though I do still think that, asides from that, you sounded as though you want WHM to have every type of heal possible and be the only healing job, just because.
Edit: We're probably at some kind of impasse, which I guess is the whole problem with arguing on the internet: Nobody wins, everyone loses.

To avoid calling forth the fallacy fallacy, or point out that the logical fallacy you linked wasn't black and white, but black-or-white...

Truth is, I just like to be the devil's advocate (and mess with people. ). Yes, I believe most of what I'm saying, but despite how I make it sound, I'm not going to quit the game over another healing class no matter how badly it's made. Hell, it'll just give me more jobs that I might actually enjoy.

That said, I hope that by trying to push against the "ZOMG GIVEZ US MORE HEALERZ" will at least make SE think a little about balance before they shove something out to appease the crowd again. ^^:

[IndigoDarkwolf]

That said, I hope that by trying to push against the "ZOMG GIVEZ US MORE HEALERZ" will at least make SE think a little about balance before they shove something out to appease the crowd again. ^^:

Well, I couldn't agree more that any new healing job needs to be carefully considered and delicately balanced. The last thing I want is a rushed job.

To avoid calling forth the fallacy fallacy, or point out that the logical fallacy you linked wasn't black and white, but black-or-white...

...touché.