Petition To Add Behest Rank Restrictions

[AlexiaKidd]

ah ok, thats not as bad then, although then you got a bunch of gimped gear for being too low for it lol

That is true also but with how gear can be equip on any class at any rank most people just run around in R50 gear anyway, this is something I hope they address with the rank restricted gear coming.

It is nice being able to wear anything but I kinda miss looking forward to get to that rank to equip that piece of gear or get that weapon, being able to equip it anytime kinda ruins that for me. Though I know a lot of people love the system so guess I am in the minority on that ^^

In regards to level sync and gear in FFXI you could still wear you gear that was for your proper level before the sync and then it just scaled it down to the equivalent gear you synced to.

So if I was level 75 with level 75 gear and synced down to level 50 then my gear would sync down to level 50ish gear and gimp it a bit. So it wasn't as good as wearing proper level 50 gear but it would do the job

[TheVedis]

That is true also but with how gear can be equip on any class at any rank most people just run around in R50 gear anyway, this is something I hope they address with the rank restricted gear coming.

people havent been doing this in a long long time

sure a few people still do, but they are a very small minority now


also i remember in 11, exp was cut in half if you were level syncd along with everything, so people may not like that since itl gimp their sp even more

[AlexiaKidd]

people havent been doing this in a long long time

sure a few people still do, but they are a very small minority now


also i remember in 11, exp was cut in half if you were level syncd along with everything, so people may not like that since itl gimp their sp even more

Nope exp was not cut in half you got it in full. Also when you synced it wasn't just you it was the entire party. So if you built a party that consisted of a Rank 20, 33, 47, 50 the party leader would sync the party to the lowest party members level so the Rank 20 in this case. So if you killed something at R20 that gave 200 SP then everyone would get 200 SP regardless of their true rank while under the level sync.

[TheVedis]

Nope exp was not cut in half you got it in full. Also when you synced it wasn't just you it was the entire party. So if you built a party that consisted of a Rank 20, 33, 47, 50 the party leader would sync the party to the lowest party members level so the Rank 20 in this case. So if you killed something at R20 that gave 200 SP then everyone would get 200 SP regardless of their true rank while under the level sync.

ok i guess im thinking of syncing as something different then
thought you meant the level capped areas that lowered you to their levels

[AlexiaKidd]

ok i guess im thinking of syncing as something different then
thought you meant the level capped areas that lowered you to their levels

I just found this, it tells you all about level sync from FFXI:

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It does have disadvantages but the advantages far outweighed them. I really think it would be great to have in FFXIV. Imagine you hit Rank 50 but your friend is currently Rank 46. To carry on playing with them and help them get their Rank 50 you currently would have to use your Rank 50 which would gain you nothing for the time you put in. Wouldn't it be great if you could start levelling a new class and your friend could sync down to your level. Then you would be gaining rank on your new class and your friend would also be gaining to get them to R50.

Or if you are in a R30 party and the CON leaves so you have no healer. Your CON is R41 so outside of the level range for the party. With Level Sync you could switch to your R41 CON and sync to R30 so you would be gaining ranks on your R41 CON while everyone else also did on their R30 classes.

I honestly thought that SE added the level sync system to FFXI to test it out for FFXIV. At the time FFXI was undergoing lots of changes and new things kept coming so I just assumed they must be using FFXI to test ideas for system they would implement into FFXIV, which is why I am so puzzled as to how FFXIV has turned out because the things they did were great.

[Abriael]

I'm not completely against it Alexia, but that has a BIG disadvantage. It wasn't much of an issue in FFXI because it was quite an old game already when they implemented it, but it will be an issue in a younger game.

That way you make inviting newerplayers and players you don't know in a group even less desirable. If every class can be used at every level, people would rather group with their higher level friends (more experience, more reliable), than actually going out of their little circle to look for classes/level combinations that they need to fill the party.
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[AlexiaKidd]

I'm not completely against it Alexia, but that has a BIG disadvantage. It wasn't much of an issue in FFXI because it was quite an old game already when they implemented it, but it will be an issue in a younger game.

That way you make inviting newerplayers and players you don't know in a group even less desirable. If every class can be used at every level, people would rather group with their higher level friends (more experience, more reliable), than actually going out of their little circle to look for classes/level combinations that they need to fill the party.
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That is true but to be honest it happens already. I don't do leves with randoms because they might not have the same super SP/EXP leves as me and I know many people are the same.

In FFXI if I wanted to party I would just grab the classes I needed to make a good setup and then we would sync to the lowest members level, so for me it didn't stop me partying with randoms, in fact it helped it because it meant I could party at anytime with anyone so I didn't sit around LFG waiting for enough people of the right ranks to come online.

They need to give us a reason to party up with people. Behest is a good start but they need to expand on it, I am sure they have something lined up with the Companies system coming so we will have to wait and see.

[Abriael]

That is true but to be honest it happens already. I don't do leves with randoms because they might not have the same super SP/EXP leves as me and I know many people are the same.

The fact that in some cases it already happens isn't a reason to worse the situation, no?

[Anima]

After thinking twice, I think Level Sync won't solve this problem. If Level Sync were to be implemented, and as an example, an R7 went in to R20/30 Behest, The others Synced with the R7 and everyone became R7, but mind that the monsters will still be around level 20/30 and an R7 won't be able to beat it. Therefore, the behest will fail. Level Sync, however, would be good for Grinding and it doesn't hurt to implement it here.

On the other hand, If Rank Restriction were implemented, Low levels will go to behests where they belong and won't disturb other's peace, and they too will get good amount of SP since other low ranks would be gathering at low behests too. I personally don't think it's too hard to rank up solo till you meet the Rank Horizon specifies.

Please Share your thoughts about this.

[AlexiaKidd]

The fact that in some cases it already happens isn't a reason to worse the situation, no?

So because of that Level Sync would kill the game and no one would party outside of their LS's???? I am sure that happens already, like I said they need to give us a reason to party.

LS's will always party with LS members when ever possible nothing is going to stop that, after all that is why you are in a LS in the first place. What level sync will allow is people who don't have a LS to group up with a wider selection of people as the levels won't matter and that is what happened with FFXI and it worked great. Or even if you do have a LS but you need an extra 2 people for your party, level sync still allows you a wider selection of players from which to choose members for your party.