Petition To Add Behest Rank Restrictions

[AlexiaKidd]

I'm not completely against it Alexia, but that has a BIG disadvantage. It wasn't much of an issue in FFXI because it was quite an old game already when they implemented it, but it will be an issue in a younger game.

That way you make inviting newerplayers and players you don't know in a group even less desirable. If every class can be used at every level, people would rather group with their higher level friends (more experience, more reliable), than actually going out of their little circle to look for classes/level combinations that they need to fill the party.
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That is true but to be honest it happens already. I don't do leves with randoms because they might not have the same super SP/EXP leves as me and I know many people are the same.

In FFXI if I wanted to party I would just grab the classes I needed to make a good setup and then we would sync to the lowest members level, so for me it didn't stop me partying with randoms, in fact it helped it because it meant I could party at anytime with anyone so I didn't sit around LFG waiting for enough people of the right ranks to come online.

They need to give us a reason to party up with people. Behest is a good start but they need to expand on it, I am sure they have something lined up with the Companies system coming so we will have to wait and see.

[Abriael]

That is true but to be honest it happens already. I don't do leves with randoms because they might not have the same super SP/EXP leves as me and I know many people are the same.

The fact that in some cases it already happens isn't a reason to worse the situation, no?

[AlexiaKidd]

The fact that in some cases it already happens isn't a reason to worse the situation, no?

So because of that Level Sync would kill the game and no one would party outside of their LS's???? I am sure that happens already, like I said they need to give us a reason to party.

LS's will always party with LS members when ever possible nothing is going to stop that, after all that is why you are in a LS in the first place. What level sync will allow is people who don't have a LS to group up with a wider selection of people as the levels won't matter and that is what happened with FFXI and it worked great. Or even if you do have a LS but you need an extra 2 people for your party, level sync still allows you a wider selection of players from which to choose members for your party.

[Anima]

After thinking twice, I think Level Sync won't solve this problem. If Level Sync were to be implemented, and as an example, an R7 went in to R20/30 Behest, The others Synced with the R7 and everyone became R7, but mind that the monsters will still be around level 20/30 and an R7 won't be able to beat it. Therefore, the behest will fail. Level Sync, however, would be good for Grinding and it doesn't hurt to implement it here.

On the other hand, If Rank Restriction were implemented, Low levels will go to behests where they belong and won't disturb other's peace, and they too will get good amount of SP since other low ranks would be gathering at low behests too. I personally don't think it's too hard to rank up solo till you meet the Rank Horizon specifies.

Please Share your thoughts about this.

[TheVedis]

After thinking twice, I think Level Sync won't solve this problem. If Level Sync were to be implemented, and as an example, an R7 went in to R20/30 Behest, The others Synced with the R7 and everyone became R7, but mind that the monsters will still be around level 20/30 and an R7 won't be able to beat it. Therefore, the behest will fail. Level Sync, however, would be good for Grinding and it doesn't hurt to implement it here. Please share your thoughts about this, I'd welcome pros and cons.

syncing with grinding isnt needed
the fact you can so easily change jobs and have many negate the need for it

behests are the issue in this thread, so dont really wanna go off on a tangent talking about grind parties

[Anima]

syncing with grinding isnt needed
the fact you can so easily change jobs and have many negate the need for it

behests are the issue in this thread, so dont really wanna go off on a tangent talking about grind parties

I'm just saying that It doesn't hurt to implement what they already have. Rank Restrictions would put people at it's place, low with low, med with med, high with high. btw I edited my last post to show you what I'm trying to say about behests, well, it's Rank Restriction anyway XD

Notes: My problem is exactly the opposite, it's the lowbies who's taking up the spots of people who's in the rank corresponding to the Camp Behest.

[AlexiaKidd]

After thinking twice, I think Level Sync won't solve this problem. If Level Sync were to be implemented, and as an example, an R7 went in to R20/30 Behest, The others Synced with the R7 and everyone became R7, but mind that the monsters will still be around level 20/30 and an R7 won't be able to beat it. Therefore, the behest will fail. Level Sync, however, would be good for Grinding and it doesn't hurt to implement it here. Please share your thoughts about this, I'd welcome pros and cons.

Yeah I do agree in regards to Behest it should still be capped as I said earlier.

[Abriael]

there's no real need for syncing in behest. There are behests at every level, so why would anyone want to take up a spot at lower levels when he has his own?

[Loke]

Exactly. And as I have said on pg. 3 and a couple others in the previous pages: If they were to implement level like they did with FFXI then with (as someone else stated) a rank 7 comes into a rank 20 Behest, they would be level synced to the rank 7 or someone else still much higher than him. The rank 7 stays in Behest and leeches. Oust would solve that part as they wouldnt be able to do it. But with the talk of level sync it would add the issue with the +10 rank higher being in the group as well. So both should be implemented. That would solve any negative issue with Behest. ^^

[TheVedis]

Exactly. And as I have said on pg. 3 and a couple others in the previous pages: If they were to implement level like they did with FFXI then with (as someone else stated) a rank 7 comes into a rank 20 Behest, they would be level synced to the rank 7 or someone else still much higher than him. The rank 7 stays in Behest and leeches. Oust would solve that part as they wouldnt be able to do it. But with the talk of level sync it would add the issue with the +10 rank higher being in the group as well. So both should be implemented. That would solve any negative issue with Behest. ^^

Ousting people who are grosly underleveled is something many are afraid to do
When i was at cedarwood(rank 30 behest) anyone below 20 i would oust the moment i noticed, but most people dont do this, and in fact, alot of people who are grosly underleved as this are the ones who try to form the parties so that no one can oust them at all.

And to top it off, the people doing it also have 50s, so they tend to get mad if you oust them, hop on their 50 and try to clear the area before you(granted, this is easily griefing and a GM will do something about it, ask the many people ive seen just up and disappear in the middle of doing it after ive called a gm for it)


But seriously, upper and lower limits are needed, the question is to how much of a limit
id personaly be all for a +-9, so for 20s, you see 11-29 and so on. This may seem like a wide range, but it fits well enough to work well
and at the very least a +-7 since -7 is whenm you can get leves at a camp