Can we please

[Ephremjlm]

There are other ways to catch up without the need to go into dungeons for dungeon gear. Gear dropping from battles or chests being untradable makes total sense. Compared to other games that have a good chunk of tradable gear, this game doesn't hand that much out in comparison. Tell me another MMO where only 6-9 pieces of gear drops in total from all bosses and trash pulls. Not that many. Usually tradable gear drops in droves and is cheap, in most games that has this feature. And guess what? Most of the time, the tradable gear is junk and gives randomized stats that would usually be useless and only the good stat gear sells about as much if not more than crafted gear.

I'm all for it, but please realize the issues that would come up if dungeons gear was tradable. It is quite easy to see how it plays out with other games. Desirable dungeons drops won't be cheap.

Okay, so once again let me just be super clear. As someone who has played the game since stormblood, I know there are other ways to get gear. I FEEL like when people answer this way, they think that all of us in the said group have unlimited time together. We wanted to accomplish a goal right then and there. The other ways would have killed the time we had available even more, to the point where we wouldn't have been able to do what we wanted to do.

On top of that, I have played plenty of other MMO's and dungeon gear drops aren't a problem. Dungeon gear in this game is always weaker. To be able to trade them breaks absolutely nothing.


- You made three different points in that last little bit so I will address them.

1. "Most of the time, the tradable gear is junk" - Dungeon gear in this game currently is junk. Like 99% of the time you either desynth it or go back to your home nation and trade it in.
2. "and gives randomized stats" - This game doesn't do randomized stats and neither do TONS of other MMO's, including SE's other MMO FFXI, where there is free trading.
3. "only the good stat gear sells about as much if not more than crafted gear." - We have already established that dungeon gear in this game is always a weaker gear, so this is a non issue as long as they continue the trend.

[Uzephi]

Okay, so once again let me just be super clear. As someone who has played the game since stormblood, I know there are other ways to get gear. I FEEL like when people answer this way, they think that all of us in the said group have unlimited time together. We wanted to accomplish a goal right then and there. The other ways would have killed the time we had available even more, to the point where we wouldn't have been able to do what we wanted to do.

On top of that, I have played plenty of other MMO's and dungeon gear drops aren't a problem. Dungeon gear in this game is always weaker. To be able to trade them breaks absolutely nothing.


- You made three different points in that last little bit so I will address them.

1. "Most of the time, the tradable gear is junk" - Dungeon gear in this game currently is junk. Like 99% of the time you either desynth it or go back to your home nation and trade it in.
2. "and gives randomized stats" - This game doesn't do randomized stats and neither do TONS of other MMO's, including SE's other MMO FFXI, where there is free trading.
3. "only the good stat gear sells about as much if not more than crafted gear." - We have already established that dungeon gear in this game is always a weaker gear, so this is a non issue as long as they continue the trend.

Please see my edit. This is poor planning. i740 gear wasn't released two days ago. It's been out for awhile. You knew you were returning. So, letting an omnicrafter you know like I tried advising in my first post prior to your return so they have a set ready for you is a waste of your time? I'm done if that's true. I have helped many returning players with gear because they asked for free, because I get a crap ton of spare materials when farming spiritbond.



Edit: You claim to play since Stormblood, so you should have known the ilvl requisites would have been more than 700/710 and 740 was available to farm and get, and know the current mechanisms in place, so this didn't blindside you

[Ephremjlm]

Please see my edit. This is poor planning. i740 gear wasn't released two days ago. It's been out for awhile. You knew you were returning. So, letting an omnicrafter you know like I tried advising in my first post prior to your return so they have a set ready for you is a waste of your time? I'm done if that's true. I have helped many returning players with gear because they asked for free, because I get a crap ton of spare materials when farming spiritbond.



Edit: You claim to play since Stormblood, so you should have known the ilvl requisites would have been more than 700/710 and 740 was available to farm and get, and know the current mechanisms in place, so this didn't blindside you

Poor planning? It's a video game, and we're doing normal content, we aren't running extremes lol. Also I don't need you to advise me on anything. We came back when we did. I was fully prepare like I've said for the millionth time in this thread, I was just trying to help others out. And as far as a waste of time, playing video games is LITERALLY a waste of time, but no one can dictate what anyone spends their time on. That's probably why none of the other people felt the need to be "prepared", and im not gonna judge them because they have lives outside the game. On top of that, this game is usually the antithesis of QOL.

Lastly, none of that changes the fact that being able to trade dungeon gear doesn't break anything in the game, and we should be able to do it.

Idk I feel like you didn't come off adversarial at the start so i'm not sure if there is something you don't understand here.

[Uzephi]

Lastly, none of that changes the fact that being able to trade dungeon gear doesn't break anything in the game, and we should be able to do it.


Idk I feel like you didn't come off adversarial at the start so i'm not sure if there is something you don't understand here.

It by design would. If dungeon gear was tradable, then less people would buy the crafted items. How many? I wouldn't know as I said, I don't play the market. Gil is easy to come by without doing that. I'm not adversarial, just being devil's advocate with the understanding of 'less time.' (as stated in previous comments about understanding limited time) Playing a game is planning around the little time you do have. Tell me you didn't put time aside to play this patch and it was on a whim. If it was on a whim, expecting to try brand new content unprepared is... I can't find a pretty word for it, but the best I can find is self centered. You still didn't bring up the fact you should have known given your long time playing this would be a road block.


I still don't see how even sending a quick message to someone you know who crafts to assist on your return being sweaty. It's called proper preparation. Would you not prepare for a new fight in a single player game? Sounds more to me like you're annoyed with how the game's market is with current tradable gear. Making lower ilvl gear available like the i725 dungeon set would cut into the crafting market, you can't deny this. It's an inevitability. The fact you're trying to twist that fact to fit your needs and twisting what I've said says all I need. It will have an effect, how big? As I've said, I don't know. I don't play that market. Your story proves it would affect it. Forgetting price, why get i740 if all you do is casually play? The dungeon set selling for a bit cheaper is all you'd need.