#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Rithy255]

And yet this kind of challenge always seems to be "no healer" instead of "no DPS" or "no tank" (and yes I am aware that there's been some tank only clears). But let's keep pretending it's not a symptom of how bad healers are when we can have "green tank" and "green dps" but god forbid we get more than one attack and a dot. Why can't we have "red healer" and "blue healer" for the sake of fun challenges by experienced people?

they've done no tank runs before you can easily find a bunch of them.

guess we should start a tank strike.

[flowerkatie]

And yet this kind of challenge always seems to be "no healer" instead of "no DPS" or "no tank" (and yes I am aware that there's been some tank only clears). But let's keep pretending it's not a symptom of how bad healers are when we can have "green tank" and "green dps" but god forbid we get more than one attack and a dot. Why can't we have "red healer" and "blue healer" for the sake of fun challenges by experienced people?

I'm not sure how you can say this challenge always seems to be no healer whilst immediately following with the fact that you're aware that no tank runs exist but don't elaborate on why that doesn't contradict your "always" for the healer point.

Not to mention "no DPS" requires replacing four people rather than two and there are clears of some Ultimate's and Savages that are missing one to two DPS, it is just not very common since even for a challenge it doesn't make sense to replace a damage, it's not as impressive as replacing a healer or tank.

Only the forums would complain about how stale and easy healers have become whilst completely ignoring content that is supposed to challenge your ability, I would say "Have you even tried to do a 3-healer comp, to be the one to actually take on that challenge" but it'd be more accurate to ask "Have you even tried an Ultimate?" at this point.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Weren't those no tank/dps clears were done after said ults are no longer current patch? These are the no healer clears that's done when said ults were released within same patch. I.e. TOP and FRU.

[Rolder50]

Weren't those no tank/dps clears were done after said ults are no longer current patch? These are the no healer clears that's done when said ults were released within same patch. I.e. TOP and FRU.

Solo healer runs are more common for the current ultimates, I would think

[Saraide]

Weren't those no tank/dps clears were done after said ults are no longer current patch? These are the no healer clears that's done when said ults were released within same patch. I.e. TOP and FRU.

UCOB and UWU specifically have been thoroughly eviscerated by job reworks and incomplete down synching. I dont think a no tank or a no dps clear are mathematically possible on FRU at this point.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Solo healer runs are more common for the current ultimates, I would think

I recall DSR was solo-healed current patch by an AST, although the main 'difficulty' from what I understood back in that time was a particular mechanic that threw invisible healer stack marker (meaning 1 other stack will go to 1 random player) so they had about 17+ tries to get a good RNG to survive through that one mechanic alone.

That two latest ults (TOP and FRU) were probably the only ones that gets cleared on-patch without healers.

[Moqi]

I'm not sure how you can say this challenge always seems to be no healer whilst immediately following with the fact that you're aware that no tank runs exist but don't elaborate on why that doesn't contradict your "always" for the healer point.

Becuase normally you'd expect for a generalization to have exemptions and still be considered valid but knowing the local fauna I know you'd go "umm akshually" if I didn't say it. It's common sense but well... you can go make friends with that "53% is technically majority" gal on the other thread lol, you'd get along.

it is just not very common since even for a challenge it doesn't make sense to replace a damage, it's not as impressive as replacing a healer or tank.

Not impressive or just plain boring because healer DPS rotation is boring as hell?

Only the forums would complain about how stale and easy healers have become whilst completely ignoring content that is supposed to challenge your ability

Is Ultimate content the only content that is allowed to not be stale? What are you even saying lol. Of course I'm not doing Ultimate, I've got better things to do than sub for 2 fights per expansion.

[Aravell]

I see we're back to that time of the year where we get people coming in to stalk the logs of everyone and pretend they know the entire raiding history of everyone in the room while calling everyone bad and telling them to go do ultimates.

Must be another day that ends in y.

[IgnisLilly]

I think what's most disappointing about FRU healerless, is that they promised "7.0 encounter design, 8.0 job design", and yet what is supposed to be the crown jewel of encounter design has no space for healers. Ex1, M2s, and M3s all were great fights to heal a decent DOT that never expired, counter attack damage that increased based on hearts, meaning some players got hit harder than others, and just varied and constant raid wides. Then you look at the rest of the fights and it's a raid wide every two minutes, AA cheese in ex 3, and FRU being possible without healers. SE was so close to actually putting a band aid on the problem, but they only pushed the cotton down, none of the adhesive, and it's fallen off.

[Alice_Rivers]

I do remember reading of a "healer only" clear of something or other and tanks saying to the effect of "See? There's no issue here."