fflogs and privacy

[Lilapop]

Nah, my perspective is that it's information. Information is best when it's freely available, and people who use it to be shitty should be punished. Removing that because of shitty people is never answer. Deal with the shitty people, and others wouldn't feel the need to hide it.

In a perfect world, you're right. Is the world perfect? No. If someone is (for some reason, publicly whether it be in group/alliance/shout/yell/say, whatever) confronting someone about their logs, the consensus is either "u suck git good skrub" or nobody cares with little to no in between.

[CaedemSanguis]

I've never done whole raid tiers, usually up to first 2-3 for fun. And no, never seen such request. The parties were usually prog parties and if we cleared, we cleared. If I joined another party progging let's say enrage a few days later, still no request to provide logs.

hum, okok yeah

[Tulvi]

hum, okok yeah

Sorry if it sounds so foreign to you, but I have genuinely not seen one instance of FF logs needed in a PF group. Maybe not your experience, but that does not invalidate mine. Or what is the problem here? Your last reply seemed sarcastic, or do I misread it?
Besides, why would a prog / clear party of randoms require FF logs? Everyone knows that these parties change and disband frequently, so there's no point in asking for it unless someone is forming a static.

[CaedemSanguis]

Sorry if it sounds so foreign to you, but I have genuinely not seen one instance of FF logs needed in a PF group. Maybe not your experience, but that does not invalidate mine. Or what is the problem here? Your last reply seemed sarcastic, or do I misread it?
Besides, why would a prog / clear party of randoms require FF logs? Everyone knows that these parties change and disband frequently, so there's no point in asking for it unless someone is forming a static.

I never play in pf

But I heard a lot of people being kicked because of logs/tomestone (especially in early savage or on patch ultimates)

and usually when you're fast progging in pf, it takes time to fill a pf (p8s week 1 pf for example) so you take time to check how people are doing dps wise

[SongOfTheWind]

It might as well be that EU is just that brutal, hence your different experiences

[Tulvi]

I never play in pf

But I heard a lot of people being kicked because of logs/tomestone (especially in early savage or on patch ultimates)

and usually when you're fast progging in pf, it takes time to fill a pf (p8s week 1 pf for example) so you take time to check how people are doing dps wise

Maybe I don't play enough savage then. As I mentioned in first post, I do it casually and it isn't something I focus on in the game. Frankly, I can't guarantee some of those party leaders in PF weren't secretly checking logs, but I've never seen them mention it in PF description or in party chat. I've seen screenshots of PF listings asking for ridiculous things like 10+ clears etc., but never encountered it myself, thankfully .

[BigCheez]

In a perfect world, you're right. Is the world perfect? No. If someone is (for some reason, publicly whether it be in group/alliance/shout/yell/say, whatever) confronting someone about their logs, the consensus is either "u suck git good skrub" or nobody cares with little to no in between.

Who are these people who roam Eorzea publicly calling people out for having bad logs? Where can we find them?

Who are these fragile people who simultaneously don't care enough about their logs to improve them but do care enough that they fall apart if someone draws attention to them?

The consensus is that no one cares about these people because they don't exist.

[TaleraRistain]

Maybe I don't play enough savage then. As I mentioned in first post, I do it casually and it isn't something I focus on in the game. Frankly, I can't guarantee some of those party leaders in PF weren't secretly checking logs, but I've never seen them mention it in PF description or in party chat. I've seen screenshots of PF listings asking for ridiculous things like 10+ clears etc., but never encountered it myself, thankfully .

Same here on Aether. I've lived in PF this tier and it was only barse PFs that even mentioned numbers. Prog parties, we cared that you weren't prog lying or even if you were, that you picked up quickly enough that it wasn't a detriment and the party could progress.

[ExcellusUltimus]

I would love to see SE sue the creators of FFLOGs and have the website shut down permanently. FFLOGs is a blight on this game, and the average player doesn't have the intelligence necessary to use the website in a reasonable manner.

Hell, last night I was in a party for Chaotic and somebody insulted me for having less than 20 logged clears. (I had 19.) Even though I've cleared all content in the game, including all ultimates, most on patch, since 2.0.

FFlogs provides fuel for morons and the community would be better off without it.

[Collin_Sky]

I would love to see SE sue the creators of FFLOGs and have the website shut down permanently. FFLOGs is a blight on this game, and the average player doesn't have the intelligence necessary to use the website in a reasonable manner.

Hell, last night I was in a party for Chaotic and somebody insulted me for having less than 20 logged clears. (I had 19.) Even though I've cleared all content in the game, including all ultimates, most on patch, since 2.0.

FFlogs provides fuel for morons and the community would be better off without it.

this is the most unhinged reply in the entire thread lmao