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    Quote Originally Posted by Realfoxy View Post
    You keep asserting that if selfish DPS jobs aren't top DPS then they're "functionally useless". Why do people keep making excuses for bad balance?

    Yes, they should be on top, and I'm tired of pretending that shouldn't be the case. Like if BLM loses to PCT by 1-2% I'll state that balance isn't ideal, but I'll still play the job - also because that would mean a 95 percentile BLM would be better than a 90 percentile PCT.

    And the problem with MCH isn't some fundamental issue with selfish DPS or anything like that. It's the developers refusing to get their head out of their ass and give the job some proper, substantial buffs.

    Like, if you want to make the argument that party utility is underappreciated by the playerbase outside of res, sure, I'll accept that. But you haven't actually made any sort of case for why we should ignore party utility. Have you ever actually progged an on patch ultimate? Or at least something where mitigation actually matters?

    EDIT: And to make things 100% clear, I don't consider raid buffs utility. They're just damage in a different form. If PCT had no party heal and Tempera was self-only, then sure, balance it to be competitive with BLM.
    “Why do people keep making excuses for bad balance”

    Because the idea that selfish DPS have to always be first because if they aren’t first they are last to me IS THE BAD BALANCE PARADIGM

    Selfish DPS being required to be first is why BLM consistently ends up bad, because it offers NOTHING if it doesn’t do the most damage, which is just toxic design both to itself when it’s not first and to the other jobs when they aren’t allowed to be first ever because otherwise the selfish jobs whine

    Do you not see the problem of having 21 jobs and only 3 of them are allowed to be first because they offer nothing else, that’s just garbage design and excessively restrictive

    And in answer to your question about it I’ve progged an on patch ultimate I progged all three legacy ultimates on patch on SCH, so yes I’m intimately familiar with mitigation thank you and I know the advantage of DPS mitigation, it doesn’t affect my point
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 12-20-2024 at 12:07 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess