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    Altera's Avatar
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    Chandani Aranka
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    Odin
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wayfinder3 View Post
    Do you not see how crazy this sounds. PCT is so different from the other jobs and your solution is to remove it and stuff it later?

    Guys this is a game first and foremost. Just play it, this is absolutely unhinged. Make your own PFs for fru or whatever content you do. But asking for something like this is completely ridiculous and a serious lack of self awareness. Also, you’re not fine with anyone doing more damage than blm because pictomancer is it’s direct competition that can justifiably keep up. If red mage and SMN were hitting higher than blm. You’d be complaining about them too.

    Just say the quiet part out loud. “I want black mage to be the best cause it’s my favorite job to play” thats all anyone is going to see when you seriously suggest they remove a class from the game purely because it makes your favorite class worse.
    PCT cannot be on direct competitive again BLM as Pictomancer is a hybrid. It doesn't have a raise like SMN/RDM, but it is not a selfish job like BLM. PCT has raid wide buffs, heal and shield. Remove all those buffs that boost the party and yeah it can compete with BLM, SAM, VPR. If you cannot understand that simple fact, you just want one Job to be vastly overpowered in all aspects, ease of play, buffs to party, and selfish damage that's beyond the pure selfish Jobs.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    PCT cannot be on direct competitive again BLM as Pictomancer is a hybrid. It doesn't have a raise like SMN/RDM, but it is not a selfish job like BLM. PCT has raid wide buffs, heal and shield. Remove all those buffs that boost the party and yeah it can compete with BLM, SAM, VPR. If you cannot understand that simple fact, you just want one Job to be vastly overpowered in all aspects, ease of play, buffs to party, and selfish damage that's beyond the pure selfish Jobs.
    This is exactly the problem I’m discussing. Let’s ignore the fact that starry muse isn’t utility (it just makes others do damage) the idea that only the selfish jobs can be top DPS is simply a constrictive and bad philosophy because you are basically saying “PCT has a shield, BLM doesn’t so PCT ALWAYS has to be worse than BLM”. PCT can’t be a competitor to BLM if it’s never allowed to be better than it same as you currently have the problem that BLM isn’t a competitor to PCT because PCT is always better than BLM

    And then you don’t even apply this to melee. The top 3 melee in savage for 7.05 are DRG (has a raid buff), NIN (has a raid buff), MNK (has a raid buff, heal and heal amp). What even counts as utility to make one not a selfish job these days. Does SAM’s monstrous tank level CD make it not selfish? Why are the melee allowed to bounce around like kids in a bouncing castle but BLM always has to be ahead because it doesn’t bring anything besides its damage

    The fact that people cling to this balance philosophy is why BLM ends up being bad so often. Because according to said Philosophy it HAS to be the best or it’s the worst. The only reason BLM has been relatively stable for the last few patches is because after the 4.x into early 5.x patches with SMN the rezz casters haven’t been allowed to compete with BLM making BLM a functional pseudo melee. If PCT isn’t competing with BLM it’s competing with nobody for a spot that doesn’t exist. This doesn’t mean PCT should dominate like it does but it also has to be allowed to be better than BLM in some circumstances
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 12-20-2024 at 01:52 AM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess