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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    Honestly, you are being really unreasonable with the request to remove PCT from the game... I can't talk for everyone but PCT is the reason I came back to the caster role bc in EW my fav job, the job I clicked with and loved was destroyed just bc some ppl didn't like that it wasn't a "real" FF summoner and it was "too hard". Now I have a caster I like you and few others want to completely remove it bc it has the niche of being good in fights with downtime. Before you said anything, yes I do agree PCT needs nerfs. It is doing to much dps but this leads to my question to you. You said PCT needs to be balanced, while what is a balance to you? Where does PCT need to be DPS-wise to you? Im curious where you would put PCT.
    Being good is one thing, being was too overpowered is another. The PCT has caused Savage tuning to be easier than they wanted due to they decided to buff every other job to to get get closer to PCT and they are still behind on damage.
    PCT forced the change to Limit Break generation as to prevent groups from just bringing 2-4 PCTs.
    Caused all other casters to be pretty worthless to bring to FRU
    And will just likely break Chaotic 24 man by all group not caring about limit breaks or the 1 job each party bonus.

    So yeah. Good you found a job you clicked with. But be honest, if it was just above RDM or higher on damage, would you still play PCT or would losing the OP state cause you to drop it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    Being good is one thing, being was too overpowered is another. The PCT has caused Savage tuning to be easier than they wanted due to they decided to buff every other job to to get get closer to PCT and they are still behind on damage.
    PCT forced the change to Limit Break generation as to prevent groups from just bringing 2-4 PCTs.
    Caused all other casters to be pretty worthless to bring to FRU
    And will just likely break Chaotic 24 man by all group not caring about limit breaks or the 1 job each party bonus.

    So yeah. Good you found a job you clicked with. But be honest, if it was just above RDM or higher on damage, would you still play PCT or would losing the OP state cause you to drop it?
    I mean let’s ask the reverse question as well (because yes nerfing PCT wouldn’t cause me to change playing it) you’ve strongly indicated BLM’s position within the caster meta strongly influences your opinion of the game. Would you be fine if BLM was nerfed to RDM level or just above? If the answer to that is no then why is it a valid question to ask people who like PCT

    This again returns to the point I’ve been trying to discuss for the last few pages, let’s take PCT is overpowered and needs a nerf as a given (ie that’s not a valid answer to this point), your solution to PCT’s balance is putting it below BLM. And further you state that since it has a buff it “should” be lower.

    Is the fact that BLM needs to be first not a problem with BLM’s design that PCT has simply shown more clearly because since ShB they refuse to let the rezz casters do good damage. Let’s say we nerfed PCT for the rest of 7.0 then there was some balance anomalies in 8.0 that put PCT ahead again but not disgustingly just 1-2%; would that be acceptable balance or would “BLM doesn’t have utility so it has to do more damage” win out again.

    Let’s go even simpler. PCT is too strong right now, however do you have a problem with it being “first” amongst all classes in FRU if it was above the other by like 1%? If no WHEN is any caster allowed to be better than BLM because BLM has no advantages when it’s not first

    I want PCT to be nerfed so it’s not dominating everything, I also want PCT to be amongst the cycle of classes “allowed” to be top DPS depending on fight and patch to patch balancing. But when does BLM “allow” that so to speak

    This is independent of PCT’s actual dominance right now which I don’t think I need to state again I support nerfing
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 12-19-2024 at 11:59 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Because Picto has raid damage buffs, party shield and heal. That's why it should never outperforming higher personal damage than any selfish no buffer jobs. Remove PCT party buffs and then welcome to the selfish DPS role
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