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  1. #9481
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GartredZW View Post
    *snip*

    And by the way, I think it's just a bit ignorant to claim that Square lives in an Ivory Tower when it comes to the MMO landscape as if A Realm Reborn didn't take heavy inspiration from WoW for most game design aspects, even improving most of them in the process.
    That was ten years ago, Gartred.

    My statement about Square Enix living in an ivory tower is based on their actions and inactions over the past five years. It is clear the devs are in an echo chamber of their own ideas.
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  2. #9482
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    That was ten years ago, Gartred.

    My statement about Square Enix living in an ivory tower is based on their actions and inactions over the past five years. It is clear the devs are in an echo chamber of their own ideas.
    unfortunately... there is no healer echo chamber since that one got too good. if its not an ivory tower, then it is certain that they have forgotten where thy came from, their former values and former intentions. I think when Blizzard imploded recently... SE just.. gave up trying to outdo WoW. now they are coasting while singing in their cubicles.... I think thats called flying fat, dumb and happy while they head for a mountain
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Where have I seen this before...?

    With its influence extending across the majority of the isle of Kholusia, this powerful military nation once stood firm against the onslaught of the sin eaters. Recent years have seen a drastic shift in Eulmore's position, with the wealthy upper classes turning their backs on the plight of the world, indulging in an endless parade of decadence and debauchery.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

  4. #9484
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    Anyone else just.. quit the game? With so little content to do and jobs being this boring, it's hard to find a reason to care about this game anymore.

    These past few years really eroded my trust in SE. From "If you want engaging healing go play ultimate", "Job identity is coming in 8.0" to "enhanced encounter design" or the recent YoshiP interviews just showing a lack of understanding why people aren't happy with the game.

    I just don't have faith in the devs anymore.
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  5. #9485
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    unfortunately... there is no healer echo chamber since that one got too good. if its not an ivory tower, then it is certain that they have forgotten where thy came from, their former values and former intentions. I think when Blizzard imploded recently... SE just.. gave up trying to outdo WoW. now they are coasting while singing in their cubicles.... I think thats called flying fat, dumb and happy while they head for a mountain
    I mean the job development team has measly 4 people and you can guess how many of these 4 people are healer or p range mains…………
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  6. #9486
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozeee View Post
    Anyone else just.. quit the game? With so little content to do and jobs being this boring, it's hard to find a reason to care about this game anymore.

    These past few years really eroded my trust in SE. From "If you want engaging healing go play ultimate", "Job identity is coming in 8.0" to "enhanced encounter design" or the recent YoshiP interviews just showing a lack of understanding why people aren't happy with the game.

    I just don't have faith in the devs anymore.
    Wow has amazing farm possible content but if you do the mythic + with random people you mostly end up more angry as before . But I do have 4 friends that play wow and I need too actually have to heal and have responsibilities as a healer and they feel fresh and different in the identity department.
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  7. #9487
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    I mean the job development team has measly 4 people and you can guess how many of these 4 people are healer or p range mains…………
    Not sure about phys range but for healer’s, it’s definitely less than a quarter person
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  8. #9488
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozeee View Post
    Anyone else just.. quit the game? With so little content to do and jobs being this boring, it's hard to find a reason to care about this game anymore.

    These past few years really eroded my trust in SE. From "If you want engaging healing go play ultimate", "Job identity is coming in 8.0" to "enhanced encounter design" or the recent YoshiP interviews just showing a lack of understanding why people aren't happy with the game.

    I just don't have faith in the devs anymore.
    i'm officially 100% done with healer after being in this role since the day i started playing ffxiv (stormblood), my static after the 8 reclears of M1S-M4S we were finally done... they wanted to keep me for the next contents but i basically told them that they will need to find a new healer

    i would be interested to switch to PLD if i decide to keep raiding but honestly i'm pretty much done with the game for the reasons you said, i'm so burnout by playing the same thing again and again since years... with every jobs i loved being destroyed one by one with their shitty patchs, anyway you just can't release a extension without any major changes right at the start

    This game fucking sucks.
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  9. #9489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Not sure about phys range but for healer’s, it’s definitely less than a quarter person
    There is 4 job developers

    1) is yoshi P’s pet developer who always develops his main (was BLM now PCT)
    2) is a WAR main who handles all 4 tanks
    3 & 4) are melee mains who design the melees

    RDM runs on legacy code from when it was made in SB, the rest of the casters, phys ranged and the healers are made by unpaid interns on work experience
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  10. #9490
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    There is 4 job developers

    1) is yoshi P’s pet developer who always develops his main (was BLM now PCT)
    2) is a WAR main who handles all 4 tanks
    3 & 4) are melee mains who design the melees

    RDM runs on legacy code from when it was made in SB, the rest of the casters, phys ranged and the healers are made by unpaid interns on work experience
    I'd say that is a pretty accurate assessment. I think the question Yoshi P. should be asking these job developers is why aren't they making casters, phys ranged and the healers interesting? If the answer is they don't find those jobs interesting themselves then Yoshi P. should replace those devs and find some people who do. People without passion make bad games.
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