#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ForsakenRoe]

I like the mitigation of one, but not the damage rotation. For another it's the exact opposite. I like the rotation, but not the mitigation. It's not even about how effective the mitigation or the damage is. It's just purely based on feel.

I think that part of the issue here, is the homogenization of the tank rotations. For example, back in SB we had PLD with 'maintain Goring Blade on enemy', WAR as 'the 2min meta before the 2min meta existed' (until they reworked it so you got your burst for free), and DRK was 'speed freak john madden with some MP management'. Now, every tank (thanks to DT) has 'press this button to activate burst, then this other button 3 times (4 as PLD) in a row'. It was fine when PLD introduced it with Req in 4.0, it was ok when WAR coopted it for the IR rework in 4.2, but now DRK has Delerium and GNB had/has Bloodfest (allowing 3x Burst Strike, now allowing Lionheart combo too), so all the 'rotations' can feel a bit samey

As for mitigation, the only one that truly feels 'different' to me is DRK because it's got a 15s CD on TBN instead of everyone else's 25s, TBN has an inherent risk to it (if it doesnt pop GG part of your damage), and Dark Mind is occasionally completely 'dead' as a button because the boss doesn't use Physical damage enough.

When I play Tank now it's GNB. Partially because I miss the speed of SB DRK, partially because I started the series with FF8

[Connor]

It’s been a few pages without one so I feel like we’re due a ‘HEALER STRIKE NOT WORKING LOL’ followed by several threads about how hard it’s become to PF savage.

Can’t wait for the Live Letter this month where they will mention the issues with tanks and healers a whole 0 times lol

[OliviaLugria]

so I've got a question for all the other former Healer mains who went to tank.
I'm trying to decide on my tank main, and it's a lot harder to decide than I thought.

I'm pretty attached to paladin. An additional party mitigation plus on demand healing. The rotation has some flexibility and can stay at range for extended periods of time with no damage loss.

[Kes13a]

It’s been a few pages without one so I feel like we’re due a ‘HEALER STRIKE NOT WORKING LOL’ followed by several threads about how hard it’s become to PF savage.

Can’t wait for the Live Letter this month where they will mention the issues with tanks and healers a whole 0 times lol

not true, I am willing to bet they mention something about tanks. seriously... something minimal just to let tank mains know they are being heard, some small buffing x ability to be more in line with y tank... but since this is part 1, its likely all about the story and nothing to do with jobs. but even in part 2... I say tanks get mentions but healers? nope. well... maybe a picture of one.

[OliviaLugria]

Okay so not sure how many folks saw this but https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...edb0f351c818a7



Now granted this prob hurt smn more than it did sch but still. Still it's hilarious that this got overlooked.

According to SE... the potency displayed is wrong but the damage is correct. If anything, fixing this will actually lower these moves damage/healing before getting these traits.

[Connor]

not true, I am willing to bet they mention something about tanks. seriously... something minimal just to let tank mains know they are being heard, some small buffing x ability to be more in line with y tank... but since this is part 1, its likely all about the story and nothing to do with jobs. but even in part 2... I say tanks get mentions but healers? nope. well... maybe a picture of one.

‘We heard there are some issues with tanks so we buffed all defensive mitigations’ - Yoshi P, probably

‘Healer issues? *laughs in Yoshida* new ultimate coming soon!’

How I expect it’ll go (if they even mention jobs)

[Supersnow845]

‘We heard there are some issues with tanks so we buffed all defensive mitigations’ - Yoshi P, probably

‘Healer issues? *laughs in Yoshida* new ultimate coming soon!’

How I expect it’ll go (if they even mention jobs)

You have more faith in the job design team than I do

I expect lala cheek shadow 2.0 for eyelash’s for an hour then “oh yeah there’s content pls look forward to it”

[Aravell]

Honestly, they probably won't even say a thing about healers. They seem to be adopting the approach of "If we say nothing about it, they'll eventually stop talking about it" approach.

It's working out for them so far. Massive outcry over Kaiten? Eventually stopped. Massive outcry over BLM changes? Eventually stopped. Massive outcry over the DC travel restrictions? That'll stop eventually too.

[Jojoya]

Honestly, they probably won't even say a thing about healers. They seem to be adopting the approach of "If we say nothing about it, they'll eventually stop talking about it" approach.

It's working out for them so far. Massive outcry over Kaiten? Eventually stopped. Massive outcry over BLM changes? Eventually stopped. Massive outcry over the DC travel restrictions? That'll stop eventually too.

Massive outcry over Kaiten stopped because most SAM players didn't really care (or were happy with its removal) and those who were upset either quit or learned to live without it.

Massive outcry over BLM changes stopped because most BLM players didn't really care (or were happy with the changes) and those who were upset either quit or learned to live with them.

I doubt the healer situation is any different overall. Most healers are at least content with the current situation. Those who are unhappy have options: quit, learn to live with healing in its current state or stop playing healer completely to play other jobs.

The problem with this "strike" is you had a lot of players jump on the bandwagon to join in the screaming but continued to play healer. You've got a few leaders standing firm but they look a lot less significant when almost all of the followers have disappeared back into the general population and random troublemakers keep using the excuse "healer strike" for their poor behavior in group content.

It's a battle that was lost before it ever began because not enough were willing to commit to it.

In the meanwhile, I'm definitely doing a lot of healing in dungeons thanks to His Royal Headness.

[Supersnow845]

Massive outcry over Kaiten stopped because most SAM players didn't really care (or were happy with its removal) and those who were upset either quit or learned to live without it.

Massive outcry over BLM changes stopped because most BLM players didn't really care (or were happy with the changes) and those who were upset either quit or learned to live with them.

I doubt the healer situation is any different overall. Most healers are at least content with the current situation. Those who are unhappy have options: quit, learn to live with healing in its current state or stop playing healer completely to play other jobs.

The problem with this "strike" is you had a lot of players jump on the bandwagon to join in the screaming but continued to play healer. You've got a few leaders standing firm but they look a lot less significant when almost all of the followers have disappeared back into the general population and random troublemakers keep using the excuse "healer strike" for their poor behavior in group content.

It's a battle that was lost before it ever began because not enough were willing to commit to it.

In the meanwhile, I'm definitely doing a lot of healing in dungeons thanks to His Royal Headness.

I can’t believe I have to explain that “enough people probably tolerate the decision that there is no point considering if it was bad” is not a viable way to run a live service game in the long term

By your own logic you could make literally every bad change imaginable and justify it with “people either don’t care enough or just grew to tolerate it”. Is it so bad that people want to actually enjoy the game they pay for, not learn to barely tolerate it