#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Kes13a]

It’s been a few pages without one so I feel like we’re due a ‘HEALER STRIKE NOT WORKING LOL’ followed by several threads about how hard it’s become to PF savage.

Can’t wait for the Live Letter this month where they will mention the issues with tanks and healers a whole 0 times lol

not true, I am willing to bet they mention something about tanks. seriously... something minimal just to let tank mains know they are being heard, some small buffing x ability to be more in line with y tank... but since this is part 1, its likely all about the story and nothing to do with jobs. but even in part 2... I say tanks get mentions but healers? nope. well... maybe a picture of one.

[OliviaLugria]

Okay so not sure how many folks saw this but https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...edb0f351c818a7



Now granted this prob hurt smn more than it did sch but still. Still it's hilarious that this got overlooked.

According to SE... the potency displayed is wrong but the damage is correct. If anything, fixing this will actually lower these moves damage/healing before getting these traits.

[Connor]

not true, I am willing to bet they mention something about tanks. seriously... something minimal just to let tank mains know they are being heard, some small buffing x ability to be more in line with y tank... but since this is part 1, its likely all about the story and nothing to do with jobs. but even in part 2... I say tanks get mentions but healers? nope. well... maybe a picture of one.

‘We heard there are some issues with tanks so we buffed all defensive mitigations’ - Yoshi P, probably

‘Healer issues? *laughs in Yoshida* new ultimate coming soon!’

How I expect it’ll go (if they even mention jobs)

[Supersnow845]

‘We heard there are some issues with tanks so we buffed all defensive mitigations’ - Yoshi P, probably

‘Healer issues? *laughs in Yoshida* new ultimate coming soon!’

How I expect it’ll go (if they even mention jobs)

You have more faith in the job design team than I do

I expect lala cheek shadow 2.0 for eyelash’s for an hour then “oh yeah there’s content pls look forward to it”

[Aravell]

Honestly, they probably won't even say a thing about healers. They seem to be adopting the approach of "If we say nothing about it, they'll eventually stop talking about it" approach.

It's working out for them so far. Massive outcry over Kaiten? Eventually stopped. Massive outcry over BLM changes? Eventually stopped. Massive outcry over the DC travel restrictions? That'll stop eventually too.

[Jojoya]

Honestly, they probably won't even say a thing about healers. They seem to be adopting the approach of "If we say nothing about it, they'll eventually stop talking about it" approach.

It's working out for them so far. Massive outcry over Kaiten? Eventually stopped. Massive outcry over BLM changes? Eventually stopped. Massive outcry over the DC travel restrictions? That'll stop eventually too.

Massive outcry over Kaiten stopped because most SAM players didn't really care (or were happy with its removal) and those who were upset either quit or learned to live without it.

Massive outcry over BLM changes stopped because most BLM players didn't really care (or were happy with the changes) and those who were upset either quit or learned to live with them.

I doubt the healer situation is any different overall. Most healers are at least content with the current situation. Those who are unhappy have options: quit, learn to live with healing in its current state or stop playing healer completely to play other jobs.

The problem with this "strike" is you had a lot of players jump on the bandwagon to join in the screaming but continued to play healer. You've got a few leaders standing firm but they look a lot less significant when almost all of the followers have disappeared back into the general population and random troublemakers keep using the excuse "healer strike" for their poor behavior in group content.

It's a battle that was lost before it ever began because not enough were willing to commit to it.

In the meanwhile, I'm definitely doing a lot of healing in dungeons thanks to His Royal Headness.

[Supersnow845]

Massive outcry over Kaiten stopped because most SAM players didn't really care (or were happy with its removal) and those who were upset either quit or learned to live without it.

Massive outcry over BLM changes stopped because most BLM players didn't really care (or were happy with the changes) and those who were upset either quit or learned to live with them.

I doubt the healer situation is any different overall. Most healers are at least content with the current situation. Those who are unhappy have options: quit, learn to live with healing in its current state or stop playing healer completely to play other jobs.

The problem with this "strike" is you had a lot of players jump on the bandwagon to join in the screaming but continued to play healer. You've got a few leaders standing firm but they look a lot less significant when almost all of the followers have disappeared back into the general population and random troublemakers keep using the excuse "healer strike" for their poor behavior in group content.

It's a battle that was lost before it ever began because not enough were willing to commit to it.

In the meanwhile, I'm definitely doing a lot of healing in dungeons thanks to His Royal Headness.

I can’t believe I have to explain that “enough people probably tolerate the decision that there is no point considering if it was bad” is not a viable way to run a live service game in the long term

By your own logic you could make literally every bad change imaginable and justify it with “people either don’t care enough or just grew to tolerate it”. Is it so bad that people want to actually enjoy the game they pay for, not learn to barely tolerate it

[Alice_Rivers]

I don't like the idea any more than you do but I think they're probably right, really. Look at the tags, would you really take this any more seriously than that if you weren't invested? Honestly I think we should just accept that healing is doomed to be a early game or vestigal role as everyone else gets increasing amounts of self sustain, DRK is overdue a rework at this point and looking at the other three tanks, do you really believe they're going to break the new tank model when they finally do rework the job?

The devs can just ignore healers and even if everyone who is serious about this stopped paying their sub completely tomorrow, we wouldn't make a dent in the game's revenue.

[Aravell]

The devs can just ignore healers and even if everyone who is serious about this stopped paying their sub completely tomorrow, we wouldn't make a dent in the game's revenue.

Game revenue isn't the only concern in an ongoing MMORPG.

If everyone that cares about the state of healers stops playing the role or outright quits the game, the game revenue will likely not register much of a hit, no.

But what do you suppose will happen to the actual game? Well, we've been seeing hints of it since the Abyssos tier. Veteran healers quit, making the amount of available healers to fill PF scarcer, and to make things worse, PF parties end up only getting bad or inexperienced healers, which leads to other problems.

In this tier alone, we've had people complaining about all the bad healers they're getting and how it takes so long to fill a PF. Ignoring the concerns of your players for 7+ years causes the role to stagnate and bleed out, huh, who knew? Certainly not SE!

[Alice_Rivers]

Unfortunately SE's actions say everything we need to know. They've had seven or more years to start caring and from what I've read they've only lowered the bar, I wouldn't be surprised if they decide "well people are struggling with the healing, we'll lower the requirements (further) or maybe we'll increase their healing to make it easier." afterall, why change the habit of a half decade?

I admit I'm in a fairly pessimistic mood writing this but I really don't see why they'd change course now given the time and littany of options they've had to improve the situation.