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  1. #8921
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Necros View Post
    Just wanted to post that people are refusing to heal and tanks won't voke when I'm tanking. I admit I'm not that good but I try to mitigate as best as I can and it's getting really annoying when I'm trying to get the mounts. I feel like I'm being blocked or people are gatekeeping certain classes at this point so I'm verry much fed up with this healer strike. FYI I have played the healer classes and at no point have I said welp I'm going to que for it and just dps.
    this question would be better asked of Striker44 actually (no relation to any strikers) who has the very pulse of the majority in their hands. They do not wish to add any skill to the game for healers so everyone and anyone can queue up as a healer and, well, not heal. As for tanking, I cant speak for him, but you might also ask him if he is against tanks needing to learn things as well. So yes, please ask of Striker44 why a general majority of the people he represents in full voice.... refuse or unable to do their job.

    on a side note... you may not queue up as a healer to dps... but.. what are you mainly doing? anyway.. the people supporting the strike are generally NOT doing group content as healers. sorry you experienced that, but if you do, report it. but I doubt it was someone supporting changes to healers.
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  2. #8922
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    Pretty sure the reason there are so many bad healers now is because they see the countless posts about ‘healer dps’ ‘healers can’t ever heal’ ‘dps is all they can ever have’ ‘it’s all oGCD heals’ ‘never use a gcd or you will be kicked blacklisted banned’, completely misunderstand what it actually means and that people are talking about design philosophy and not literal practice, then go into playing healer thinking they literally do not need to use a single healing spell or ability the entire fight so long as they maintain acceptable dps uptime. I mean, look how angry so many healers get at the idea of having to use an actual gcd spell…
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    Last edited by Connor; 09-01-2024 at 11:55 PM.

  3. #8923
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    I'd say most bad players don't even know the forum exists, let alone reads what's here.
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  4. #8924
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
    I'd say most bad players don't even know the forum exists, let alone reads what's here.
    Who’s to say it’s just the forum? People’s attitudes and discussions around healers mostly follow the same route regardless of whether they’re here, on Reddit, X or whatever else in my entirely anecdotal experience. Cursed Facebook maybe lol.
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  5. #8925
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Pretty sure the reason there are so many bad healers now is because they see the countless posts about ‘healer dps’ ‘healers can’t ever heal’ ‘dps is all they can ever have’ ‘it’s all oGCD heals’ ‘never use a gcd or you will be kicked blacklisted banned’, completely misunderstand what it actually means and that people are talking about design philosophy and not literal practice, then go into playing healer thinking they literally do not need to use a single healing spell or ability the entire fight so long as they maintain acceptable dps uptime. I mean, look how angry so many healers get at the idea of having to use an actual gcd spell…*emphasis mine*
    It's crazy, isn't it? Players have to understand it's okay to use their gcd heals too. They may lose the damage from one glare or two; but, a healer is there to keep the party alive. So, if they don't have any ogcd heals, and the tank's health is dipping dangerously low, cast the damn Cure IIs already!

    Only the most clueless individual will attempt to kick them for it, and if they are kicked, so what? They'll get another group in less than 5 minutes.
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  6. #8926
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    It's crazy, isn't it? Players have to understand it's okay to use their gcd heals too. They may lose the damage from one glare or two; but, a healer is there to keep the party alive. So, if they don't have any ogcd heals, and the tank's health is dipping dangerously low, cast the damn Cure IIs already!

    Only the most clueless individual will attempt to kick them for it, and if they are kicked, so what? They'll get another group in less than 5 minutes.
    I mean, it’s basically just an unfortunate game of ‘Chinese whispers’ that’s went from ‘healers need more dps/variety because of how encounters work’ all the way downhill to ‘healers literally don’t need to heal’. It’s probably compounded by all the talk of tanks being ‘invincible super healers’; which, I mean, they basically are lol. But by the time that filters down, the added caveat of ‘when played properly/with appropriate gear/etc’. End result being a certain group of people queuing as healer thinking the tank is griefing them for asking for healing lol.

    And, I’m not suggesting it’s a specific thing like ‘omg healer strike did this’ lol, it’s been a thing of varying magnitudes throughout the game’s history. Whether it’s healers refusing to gcd heal in current times or healers refusing to turn on/off cleric stance in ARR (yes Lustrate is % based but that doesn’t help if you have no Aetherflow lol). And frankly I think SE ‘fixing healing’ and basically making it less of a joke is the only way they’ll really resolve it.

    So long as the healer role has as many issues as as it does, it’s always going to end up attracting people with a completely distorted view of what healer is and how those issues actually relate to the role in a wider context
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  7. #8927
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    this question would be better asked of Striker44 actually (no relation to any strikers) who has the very pulse of the majority in their hands. They do not wish to add any skill to the game for healers so everyone and anyone can queue up as a healer and, well, not heal. As for tanking, I cant speak for him, but you might also ask him if he is against tanks needing to learn things as well. So yes, please ask of Striker44 why a general majority of the people he represents in full voice.... refuse or unable to do their job.

    on a side note... you may not queue up as a healer to dps... but.. what are you mainly doing? anyway.. the people supporting the strike are generally NOT doing group content as healers. sorry you experienced that, but if you do, report it. but I doubt it was someone supporting changes to healers.
    Who are you even talking about????
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  8. #8928
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Necros View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    this question would be better asked of Striker44 actually
    Who are you even talking about????
    I'm going to hazard a guess that it's Striker44. As in the poster by that name on this thread.
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  9. #8929
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I'm going to hazard a guess that it's Striker44. As in the poster by that name on this thread.
    Ya ok don't know them at all maybe it's someone I have blocked?
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  10. #8930
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Necros View Post
    Ya ok don't know them at all maybe it's someone I have blocked?
    would have to be since they very often post in this thread as the self appointed representative of the Majority.
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