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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    No, Bobby, we fans are telling the creators that we aren't idiots and we know why he is saying what he is saying now. As I said, you are either willingfully naive, or you do not have the experience to know bs when you hear it.
    You are free to tell them that. I think it is a waste of time but you are free to voice your concern and issues that is not what I am talking about.

    My reply was to the person that stated Bridget was not trans. In this moment in time they are 100% trans. The motivate or reason behind the change does not change the fact the developers changed their story and made the character trans.

    Sure it seems like BS and screams some weird PR play. That being said I have no way to confirm or deny their intentions behind the action. If I cannot prove otherwise I will take the persons words at face value.

    I.just don't see the value in calling someone a liar when I cannot prove them to be so. I can have my suspensions and concerns and I got personally distance myself from them if I so desire. I will not spread unverified claims such as x person is lying. I cannot prove that so i will not speak of it as fact.

    If that being naive fine.
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    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    You are free to tell them that. I think it is a waste of time but you are free to voice your concern and issues that is not what I am talking about.

    My reply was to the person that stated Bridget was not trans. In this moment in time they are 100% trans. The motivate or reason behind the change does not change the fact the developers changed their story and made the character trans.

    Sure it seems like BS and screams some weird PR play. That being said I have no way to confirm or deny their intentions behind the action. If I cannot prove otherwise I will take the persons words at face value.

    I.just don't see the value in calling someone a liar when I cannot prove them to be so. I can have my suspensions and concerns and I got personally distance myself from them if I so desire. I will not spread unverified claims such as x person is lying. I cannot prove that so i will not speak of it as fact.

    If that being naive fine.
    They are not trans. Now figure out why I said that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    They are not trans. Now figure out why I said that.
    According to the developer's who shape the game world said Bridget is trans. That means they are trans. Your reasoning is moot, they get the final say on what happens to their world and characters.

    As pointed out if they said Bridger was an alien that just wanted to dress up as a nun. Sure it would be dumb ans as fans we could voice that concern but unfortunately we have no ground to deny that they are now an alien. Their game, their rules. Like it or not they are the final authority on the state of characters and the game world. Until stated otherwise Briget is now trans. Q
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    According to the developer's who shape the game world said Bridget is trans. That means they are trans. Your reasoning is moot, they get the final say on what happens to their world and characters.

    As pointed out if they said Bridger was an alien that just wanted to dress up as a nun. Sure it would be dumb ans as fans we could voice that concern but unfortunately we have no ground to deny that they are now an alien. Their game, their rules. Like it or not they are the final authority on the state of characters and the game world. Until stated otherwise Briget is now trans. Q
    Ok, i will make ti clear to you : Arc System Work doesn't own GG licence for years now.
    It's Sammy Sega.

    They don't have the upper hands on GG anymore, so, basically, some upper ups put this words into his mouth and torld him to forgot what he created.

    This is also one of the reason why Arc Sys created BlazBlue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Ok, i will make ti clear to you : Arc System Work doesn't own GG licence for years now.
    It's Sammy Sega.

    They don't have the upper hands on GG anymore, so, basically, some upper ups put this words into his mouth and torld him to forgot what he created.

    This is also one of the reason why Arc Sys created BlazBlue.
    Blazblue is better than GG anyways
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    Quote Originally Posted by kinslayer- View Post
    Blazblue is better than GG anyways
    Now this is a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Now this is a fact. (Blaze Blue is better than Guilty Gear)
    Worst take in this thread, and there's some stiff competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Ok, i will make ti clear to you : Arc System Work doesn't own GG licence for years now.
    It's Sammy Sega.

    They don't have the upper hands on GG anymore, so, basically, some upper ups put this words into his mouth and torld him to forgot what he created.

    This is also one of the reason why Arc Sys created BlazBlue.
    I mean you do not know if that is a fact either, that is my point none of us known all of it is speculation. We do not know what their true feelings on the subject are. All we can go by are what they say. We cannot prove it one way or another we can speculate and such but that is all it is at this point is speculation. All of that is moot.

    Say turning Bridget trans as 100% a focus group call, does that suddenly mean they are not trans now? In this moment they are trans that is my point. The reason behind the change does not change the fact they are trans. Like I do not get why does it bother people so much. Is it weird to make Bridget trans based off the lore? Yeah, but if this is the way they wish to show respenstation more power to them. As stated Trans, alien, a Rossete variate, Reverse Trap, Trap, orange blob they are still an S tier pick in terms of their skill set.

    The powers at be made a change, and that change will stick until it is reverted and tbh I don't see that happening. So as fans you have two choices, go to the better game BlazBlue or play GG. I think complaining about a character having their story changed or what is kind of silly but you do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    According to the developer's who shape the game world said Bridget is trans. That means they are trans. Your reasoning is moot, they get the final say on what happens to their world and characters.

    As pointed out if they said Bridger was an alien that just wanted to dress up as a nun. Sure it would be dumb ans as fans we could voice that concern but unfortunately we have no ground to deny that they are now an alien. Their game, their rules. Like it or not they are the final authority on the state of characters and the game world. Until stated otherwise Briget is now trans. Q
    My opinion is when you retcon something, you are creating a different continuity. I consider this a retcon and thus the current Briget and the original Briget are not the same person. One is a trap and the other is trans. It's like with Dragonball GT, it was considered cannon by Shueisha and Akira Toriyama and they they changed retconned it as if it never happened and continued with Super. You may argue that it was an entire season that got retconned but there has been many smaller retcons in the dragonball series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet View Post
    My opinion is when you retcon something, you are creating a different continuity. I consider this a retcon and thus the current Briget and the original Briget are not the same person. One is a trap and the other is trans. It's like with Dragonball GT, it was considered cannon by Shueisha and Akira Toriyama and they they changed retconned it as if it never happened and continued with Super. You may argue that it was an entire season that got retconned but there has been many smaller retcons in the dragonball series.
    I mean DB does have multiple degrees of Canon. They have DBZ, movies, super, anime super, manga super etc... no? Now I just play the games for the gameplay I do not follow the lore much behind them does GG have differing Canon for different games? Like variate versions of characters on the same character within the lore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.