With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[Rueby]

Well, Bridget was just breaking gender norms back in the day by being a very feminine guy. But I have the feeling, that this isn't supposed to exist anymore in the world of today. I mean, feminine guys? That can't exist, those must actually be trans right? Because being a guy who looks more soft or androgynous is impossible. You either a bulky manly man or trans.

I feel like this is a step back, actually. People used to say that it's sexist to say things like 'boys can't wear make-up' or 'girls don't play with cars'. Which is inherently true, it's sexist.
But in todays world, if someone doesn't fit the gender norm, they have to be trans right? Dangerous mindset...but unfortunately very common.

Also, this just feels like a retcon or a change to the canon to please the fans. But of course it's hard to prove. Like many things that get changed later on a whim by the directors or authors of certain games, books or movies.

I'm going to go off topic, but I was involved with a small circle of trans people in tumblr and being the only non-trans person made me feel alot of pressure to try and fit in. I tried my best to be respectful and mindful and I felt out of place no matter how hard I tried to understand or relate to them. I even remember thoroughly researching youtube and listening to the experiences of trans people to try and at least not be inconsiderate. (And at some point I did question my gender due to how much they talked about being trans/transitioning- but I can't blame them this is something that was obviously important to them but not something I related to or wanted)

I remember we were talking about Alucard from Castlevania Symphony of the Night...and they kept telling me that he's 'trans' and got yelled at when I even questioned it. He's canonically a man.

This was like 7 years ago. I find it so strange when people project their sexuality/gender onto something that...never had it. It was never up in the air. He was always referred to as male, son and so on. He just...looked feminine.

Anyway this was offtopic, your post just kinda gave me flashbacks. I think tumblr and twitter are cesspools now that I'm older.

[Sivante]

This argument is senseless: You're arguing about Guilty Gear in a FFXIV forum. But screw it, we're here; when in Rome.

The concepts being discussed on Bridget are likely being made in innocent ignorance: that, or blatant intellectual dishonesty.

At Base

I take them as being a cross dresser (if by force). Bridget was not born into a gender not their own and forced to conform, they were born into their proper gender (one he enforces in conversation in some instances) and forced to conform to the adverse. Bridget is not trans, as Bridget does not need to transition into anything. They are certainly misgendered often.

The Complication

Some of the endings of Guilty Gear show Bridget being turned female as I recall, and adopting this as the primary gender. Others show Bridget fighting to maintain being male, 'refusing to change for the world.' How you want to take these details is down to personal opinion. The dev's are not native speakers and don't understand the nuance in the trans terminology, so I don't particularly trust their take on 'Bridget is Trans' unless you also commit to that meaning 'Bridget is trans in the way that japanese people use the word Trans.' Culture dictates. In the game, the 'good ending' is Bridget telling the world to bugger off and staying male, and the 'bad ending' is Bridget going female: I don't take this as the Dev's saying women are evil, I take this as a testament that (at the time) Bridget was understood to be male and was being pushed into an identity not their own.

The Issue

Either way there is argument that this means Bridget is convinced to be a gender not their own through gender-affirmation. Something that, last I checked, the LGBT wasn't crazy about. Convincing someone to be another gender doesn't make them trans, it makes them a victim of outright evil behavior.



So I'll put it this way:

I don't think the majority of the trans community is going to be sunshine and rainbows if you call something trans in the Japanese context. Which is to say highly fetishized, poorly defined, and incredibly objectifying. I'd like to think Sena was not aware of the massive implications of holding Bridget on high as a standard of Trans characterization and said this in innocent ignorance.

But hey, if the Trans community wants to jump on calling Bridget 'Trans', let them do them, I guess. Seems gross to me but it's not my barbeque.

[ZephyrMenodora]

This argument is senseless: You're arguing about Guilty Gear in a FFXIV forum.

Really not understanding this entire tangent, as someone who has never played Guilty Gear. The situation of a character having their status as a trans character changed also has not come up in XIV.

[Alchemii]

Really not understanding this entire tangent, as someone who has never played Guilty Gear. The situation of a character having their status as a trans character changed also has not come up in XIV.

Has not come up in FFXIV, YET!

[LisseyCrowe]

Really not understanding this entire tangent, as someone who has never played Guilty Gear. The situation of a character having their status as a trans character changed also has not come up in XIV.

Something something Sena once called for Bridget's VA to step down due to not being trans and we're now arguing over whether Bridget is trans or not because ... uhh .. I mean Sena's take is still bad even if Bridget is trans so ... I dunno yay drama I think?

[ZephyrMenodora]

Something something Sena once called for Bridget's VA to step down due to not being trans and we're now arguing over whether Bridget is trans or not because ... uhh .. I mean Sena's take is still bad even if Bridget is trans so ... I dunno yay drama I think?

Thank you for connecting the dots for me haha. Yes I think it's immaterial if the character is trans, since it's acting and it shouldn't matter that the actress isn't trans. Sena wants non-trans roles also, so... *shrug*

[Alchemii]

Thank you for connecting the dots for me haha. Yes I think it's immaterial if the character is trans, since it's acting and it shouldn't matter that the actress isn't trans. Sena wants non-trans roles also, so... *shrug*

Yeaaa, pretty much everyone who came out in support of that ideas wants it to be "Rules for Thee, but not for Me". Particularly in ways that make them seem kind of like not good people.

[CuteBucket]

How did this turn into a thread about whether a Guilty Gear character is trans or not?

Back on topic, I keep seeing people say that Sena is a personal friend of Kate on the localization team. Do we have any solid evidence of that claim? Because I keep seeing that get posted with no source. I would like to know if that's true though, as that would look like a major conflict of interest.

[MartinFreeman]

How did this turn into a thread about whether a Guilty Gear character is trans or not?

Back on topic, I keep seeing people say that Sena is a personal friend of Kate on the localization team. Do we have any solid evidence of that claim? Because I keep seeing that get posted with no source. I would like to know if that's true though, as that would look like a major conflict of interest.

Does it seem impossible to think that? You're an amateur voice actor given the role on a top mmo game of a character that is in front of the player for most of the expansion. How do you get that role without being a friend? And do not say on talent. We already determined enough that is a lie.

[Lorika]

How did this turn into a thread about whether a Guilty Gear character is trans or not?

Yeah i do wonder, wonder why LGBT community want absolutly to trasnform one of the best Reverse Trap into a Trans.
I have nothing against LGBT, you're are free to like what you like, to be what you want to be, and to live your life the way you want.... But, i can't stand when people try to change things just to accomodate or promote some ideology.

A Reverse trap is a Reverse trap period. (For those who don't know what is a Reverse trap : It's a cute effimate boy to the point that when he's cross-dressing his look like a very cute girl)