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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    I didn't like the job she did with Wuk Lamat but I stopped mentioning it because genuinely I saw nothing but the grossest, nastiest comments laden with transphobia and all kinds of stuff completely unrelated to the VA job she did attached to the majority of people criticizing her work after a certain point.
    I remember you being present when people from latam was saying her accent is fake but no, that's all you saw.

    I guess I'm transphobic for thinking that she's faking a latam accent, I learn every day how there's always a new requisite to hit that label, and the bar keeps getting lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    I remember you being present when people from latam was saying her accent is fake but no, that's all you saw.

    I guess I'm transphobic for thinking that she's faking a latam accent, I learn every day how there's always a new requisite to hit that label, and the bar keeps getting lower.
    You left off the next part of what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    I didn't like the job she did with Wuk Lamat but I stopped mentioning it because genuinely I saw nothing but the grossest, nastiest comments laden with transphobia and all kinds of stuff completely unrelated to the VA job she did attached to the majority of people criticizing her work after a certain point. At the start of the expansion there were legitimate criticisms, but most people just stopped caring as they finished the MSQ and moved on and all that was left were the bigots.
    And here is some proof of a thread the mods literally had to close because the transphobia and harassment towards Sena got too bad:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-English-Voice

    A thread that you posted in and saw the transphobia happening for yourself. Why are you lying and pretending like it never happened?
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    Last edited by FlowerMilk; 08-09-2024 at 12:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    You left off the next part of what I said.



    And here is some proof of a thread the mods literally had to close because the transphobia and harassment towards Sena got too bad:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-English-Voice

    A thread that you posted in and saw the transphobia happening for yourself. Why are you lying and pretending like it never happened?
    And I'm assuming you reported it.

    It's not my job to moderate what's being said, it's no one's job aside from mods. I'm only responsible for what I say, and I'm no one to tell anyone what to say. I'm not their mother.

    And you keep on acting as if that was all you saw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    And I'm assuming you reported it.

    It's not my job to moderate what's being said, it's no one's job aside from mods. I'm only responsible for what I say, and I'm no one to tell anyone what to say. I'm not their mother.

    And you keep on acting as if that was all you saw.
    I did indeed report posts for transphobia, and then soon after the mod showed up to close it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    The mod didn't say it was being closed because of transphobia or harassment. They said it was getting off topic. I don't see any transphobia in the final page or two.
    Do you have any examples of quotes from the thread? An overwhelming number of quotes showing that there wasn't just one or two posts, but so many that that was the reason the thread was closed?
    Here you go, this guy quoted a lot of them: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6562718
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    You left off the next part of what I said.



    And here is some proof of a thread the mods literally had to close because the transphobia and harassment towards Sena got too bad:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-English-Voice

    A thread that you posted in and saw the transphobia happening for yourself. Why are you lying and pretending like it never happened?
    The mod didn't say it was being closed because of transphobia or harassment. They said it was getting off topic. I don't see any transphobia in the final page or two.
    Do you have any examples of quotes from the thread? An overwhelming number of quotes showing that there wasn't just one or two posts, but so many that that was the reason the thread was closed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralAngeldust View Post
    So you want the game to be shittier just to spite some people you don't like personally that you don't even know, for being a little mean on the interwebs? Jesus go dunk your head into some water, shake yourself then go touch some grass.
    We want the game to continue unharassed by loser bigots and if it means that it makes them cry while we enjoy it regardless? Well maybe you better touch some astro turf, grass might to much to handle.
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    It's extremely simple

    Death threats = bad
    Wuk Lamat = bad
    Wuk Lamat Voice Acting = bad
    Sena = bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    You left off the next part of what I said.



    And here is some proof of a thread the mods literally had to close because the transphobia and harassment towards Sena got too bad:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-English-Voice

    A thread that you posted in and saw the transphobia happening for yourself. Why are you lying and pretending like it never happened?
    Was there anyone saying “ I hate trans people” or “ trans people shouldn’t exist”?

    I don’t see any
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Was there anyone saying “ I hate trans people” or “ trans people shouldn’t exist”?

    I don’t see any
    i have hunch that it's wasn't so black and white, and those who did get offended were offended by people meaning:
    "i don't like that fact that they picked mtf for this female character role, actor's vocal range is noticeably limited while the writing portrays character who would benefit her actor to be able to portray wider arrange of emotions and tone. actor plays the role oddly monotonically. i can't understand what the casting director was thinking!"

    and then in the minds and eyes of some people all that looks like: "something something transphobia"

    which ironically would made it depressingly black and white
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 08-09-2024 at 02:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    i have hunch that it's wasn't so black and white, and those who did get offended were offended by people meaning:
    "i don't like that fact that they picked mtf for this female character role, actor's vocal range is noticeably limited while the writing portrays character who would benefit her actor to be able to portray wider arrange of emotions and tone. actor plays the role oddly monotonically. i can't understand what the casting director was thinking!"

    and then in the minds and eyes of some people all that looks like: "something something transphobia"

    which ironically would made it depressingly black and white
    You know people can just open up the link and see people calling her a man with their own eyes? Why even bother pretending like people can't see it for themselves?
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