Warrior Rework to Balance the job

[Elkanah]

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Dont you dare touch my WAR D:

[All_Nonsense]

My principles are:
[LIST][*]ruining the job

No thanks homie. Me WAR main, me smash rocks and people, me have fun. New abilities smash rocks and people even harder than last expac. Me like new abilities. Me happy. Me continue to have fun. Me no no want job to change. Me think you should play Picto if you want rotation diversity because me see you're BLM main and that job got bad change.

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[Ramiee]

HEY WAR IS UNDERPOWERED!!!
PLD has ranged moves!? WTF where's WARs ranged combo this isn't balanced at all also wtf PLD has another raid mitigation!? Give WAR one too no one will pick WAR when PLD has two raid mits!!
I've noticed that SCH and AST both have raid buffs, buddy Tanks are also supports where's WARs raidbuffs!? Why would anyone take WAR when it does has no raid buffs!?!
What the hell! look at SAM and VPR they do so much more damage then WAR. WAR needs to do the same amount of damage as SAM otherwise no one would ever take WAR into content! Where the hell is the balance!?

[Crafoutis]

I really don't want non-WAR mains coming in and trying to direct how WAR is played to be honest.

I love WAR, it's my hands down favorite job to play, and without it being how it is, and has been for almost ten years (braindead, sustain, unga bunga), I literally wouldn't be paying to play the game, or have my extra retainer slots, or buying all manner of goodies on the mogstation optional store.

WAR being simple is why I end up giving Square Enix a lot of money.

[Ramiee]

Honestly It would be funny if self sustain on warrior got completely destroyed just to see war mains go berserk on the forums.
Literally think it would be the end of the world for some people, it would be like Sam players seeing mch get buffed to do as much damage as them.

[CKNovel]

Honestly It would be funny if self sustain on warrior got completely destroyed just to see war mains go berserk on the forums.
Literally think it would be the end of the world for some people, it would be like Sam players seeing mch get buffed to do as much damage as them.

Here's my prediction:
-People who played WAR for its easy sustain will move to PLD.
-People who played WAR because they liked it will keep playing WAR and not caring as 80% of the job's active sustains remains
-Healers will celebrate and have a placebo effect that it is effective, despite WAR still not dropping below 50%

[Tunda]

To balance warrior even further

If warrior hp below 50% it should insta die as it is a skill issue

[VentiMocha]

There's a whole lot of opinion having in this thread about why Bloodwhetting is overpowered in dungeons when the real test is clearly how they do in savage/ex content.

Oh, wait, this just in. Every tank is good and fine and they're all viable. Stop complaining about not having to heal a warrior in a dungeon and enjoy the glory of being able to do more damage.

[Zairava]

There's a whole lot of opinion having in this thread about why Bloodwhetting is overpowered in dungeons when the real test is clearly how they do in savage/ex content.

Oh, wait, this just in. Every tank is good and fine and they're all viable. Stop complaining about not having to heal a warrior in a dungeon and enjoy the glory of being able to do more damage.

Oh yeah..the glory of spamming one damage spell... Tell me more how healers are supposed to be happy dps'ing with the most lobotomized dps kit possible in the entire game, without even mentioning their role being basically invalidated when they have a Warrior in dungeons.

If a WHM's holy stun never had any fall-off and they could just stun the mob pack forever I wouldn't feel very needed either.

Raw Intuition/Bloodwhetting being op in dungeons isn't really arguable. It's only balanced in 8-man content

[Ramiee]

There's a whole lot of opinion having in this thread about why Bloodwhetting is overpowered in dungeons when the real test is clearly how they do in savage/ex content.

Oh, wait, this just in. Every tank is good and fine and they're all viable. Stop complaining about not having to heal a warrior in a dungeon and enjoy the glory of being able to do more damage.

In savage WAR out paces other tank in healing by nearly double. This isn't just equilibrium, bloodwhetting is strong self heal under raid buffs and if you do it with fell cleave spam. I think war is op in savage compared to other tanks but only because of holmgang having the lowest cd.

Also dungeons are a part of the game and should feel fun for all parties, if healers aren't having fun that's a problem that should be fix. Just cap bloodwhetting's aoe to like 3-4 mobs it would still be strong but if you want a full heal you'd need to use decimate at least twice.