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    Grainne Gothram
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    I think bloodwhetting and the regen on shake it off are the only real issues with warrior. Just make bloodwhettings aoe lifesteal cap and remove the regen on shake it off.
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I think bloodwhetting and the regen on shake it off are the only real issues with warrior. Just make bloodwhettings aoe lifesteal cap and remove the regen on shake it off.
    the cap should be 1. It should be exactly like holy circles healing where it isn't per enemy anymore. 4 400 Potency heals is already enough, it shouldn't be able to get warrior back from 1 to full hp in one hit during AOE.

    But in reality no warrior's self healing even if you changed BW and shake regen, would still be too much, equilibrium Does not need a regen. Damnation Shouldn't give a Regen, it should give some form of extra Mitigation, to actually give warrior something they need.

    I'm fine with warrior having the highest amount of sustain, but they quite literally have healing abilities stacked with healing on them and all their regular defensive abilities have healing aspects on them, I think we need to go into a Different more healthy direction.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 07-26-2024 at 08:04 PM.

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    Just reached level 100 war, I havent felt this strong with other tanks.

    Dont nerf Warrior, but buff/fix other tanks and with other tanks, I mean Dark Knight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Just reached level 100 war, I havent felt this strong with other tanks.

    Dont nerf Warrior, but buff/fix other tanks and with other tanks, I mean Dark Knight.
    No we do not need more power creep on tanks, it's time to nerf all tanks, Warrior most importantly.
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    make bloodwhetting only apply to your main target. doesn't affect savage, and makes it less of a 25 second benediction in dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    these days warrior heals more than sage.. there should be a downside no?
    This is factually wrong, the Maximum healing Warrior only heals 50% of the Minimum healing Sage.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 07-27-2024 at 07:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    This is factually wrong, the Maximum healing Warrior only heals 50% of the Minimum healing Sage.


    I can do that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post


    I can do that too.
    Yes? The quotation was "WAR heals more than SGE".
    On your graph, we can see that the statement remains false.

    On top of that, this is dungeons where there's already barely any damages.

    Dungeons:


    Extreme:


    If anything, I can use this data to argue further that dungeons don't have enough damages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    If anything, I can use this data to argue further that dungeons don't have enough damages.
    And you'd be right, dungeons don't have enough damage in them. It doesn't disprove that WAR's healing in dungeons is excessive to a degree that is beyond reason and needs fixing. I may be looking in the wrong places but I don't see PLDs running content synced with three dps, nor GNB. Neither do we have jokes like "By the way, did you know PLD/GNB/DRK can solo <duty> synced?" yet the number of duties WAR can't solo synced is lower than the number it can - that alone is damning.
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    The tanks on that graph should all be around DRK. It's insane that WAR heals to the level of healers that easily and isn't severely weak anywhere else like in it's DPS to compensate.
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