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  1. #7861
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Food for thought: When a healer refused to stop healbotting my Warrior, I dropped all self-healing and mitigation during trash just to see what would happen. Even favoring Cure over Cure II or maintained Regen, he was still frequently overhealing even while slipping in occasional damage or stopping to type. Again, that was without me using a single self-heal or mitigation skill in W2W pulls in which he joined late (unless he had Rescue with which to pull me back as I used Sprint). Like, I was doing everything I could to make his habits feel like they had a context in which they'd be warranted and even with the Cure Is and no tank skills (nor Temperance, etc.) used, he was still ending up with downtime or majority overheating.

    In most Endwalker multi/all-packs pulls, I would not have survived that off incomplete uptime, let alone with so much spent on Cure I. I've heard commonly that Dawntrail dungeons are finally requiring some GCD heals, but I can't remember having to use any outside of Afflatus spells while leveling WHM, and as a tank the risks seem even fewer than in Endwalker and that's without even accounting for our added self-sustain.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 07-31-2024 at 07:06 AM.

  2. #7862
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Percibel Theren
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I've heard commonly that Dawntrail dungeons are finally requiring some GCD heals, but I can't remember having to use any outside of Afflatus spells while leveling WHM
    Same experience here. I begrudgingly picked up WHM to fill FC roulettes because, while half my FC are healer mains, everyone is playing Picto and Viper right now and the only difference between EW and DT is that DT actually makes me use all my OGCD heals sometimes. I need to use Tetragrammaton for once, not just lillies. But that's also about it. I only occasionally needed to throw a Cure II in when everyone was in grey MSQ gear.
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  3. #7863
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Character
    Rhaya Jakkya
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    7.05 Patch Notes...

    White Mage

    Dia Potency has been increased from 70 to 75.
    Damage over time potency has been increased from 70 to 75.


    Astrologian

    Play I / Play II / Play III Shared recast time has been removed.



    Thanks SE, that does nothing to convince that healers aren't just borderline abandoned content.
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  4. #7864
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 91
    You know that reminds me, I switched to AST for a minute earlier just to see what was up and I was absolutely baffled that, after all their talk about button bloat, they made THREE different buttons for Play. Like what.
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  5. #7865
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    EusisLandale's Avatar
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    Character
    Eira Landale
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    7.05 Patch Notes...

    White Mage

    Dia Potency has been increased from 70 to 75.
    Damage over time potency has been increased from 70 to 75.
    Oh it gets better. Take a look at the changes overview on the Job Guide page.
    White Mage

    The potency of several actions has been increased to keep in line with other healer jobs.
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  6. #7866
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Character
    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    Oh it gets better. Take a look at the changes overview on the Job Guide page.
    And Samurai gets its 'Tsubame Gaeshi' change explained twice. And MNK's listed potency changes are wrong (probably the wrong action is listed, those potencies look like Tornado Kick/Phantom Rush).

    At least AST cards will feel less crap to use, from a 'weaving' standpoint. Can't really say the same for the actual effects though personally
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  7. #7867
    Player
    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    And Samurai gets its 'Tsubame Gaeshi' change explained twice. And MNK's listed potency changes are wrong (probably the wrong action is listed, those potencies look like Tornado Kick/Phantom Rush).

    At least AST cards will feel less crap to use, from a 'weaving' standpoint. Can't really say the same for the actual effects though personally
    Yea it's supposed to be Phantom Rush for MNK that's going from 1400 to 1500... But I wouldn't mind if it was True Strike that got 1500 potency. It's not like they actually care about balance and as proof of that I offer Healers.
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  8. #7868
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    Oh it gets better. Take a look at the changes overview on the Job Guide page.
    German text for that also mentions several so it's not a case of 'english team done goofed again'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  9. #7869
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    Rueby's Avatar
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    Character
    Vera Nova
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    You know that reminds me, I switched to AST for a minute earlier just to see what was up and I was absolutely baffled that, after all their talk about button bloat, they made THREE different buttons for Play. Like what.
    I actually ran out of comfortable keybinds for it and I haven't even leveled AST fully...I was confused why play is now 3 buttons...
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  10. #7870
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Today I have learned that WHM's Dia upfront and Dia ticks are separate actions.



    Not to mention MNK's section is also.... lmao. Get your quality check together, SE.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 07-31-2024 at 02:00 AM.

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