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  1. #7721
    Player Venarius's Avatar
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    Celeste Valeria
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    My sub ran out. I'm wishing everyone who is still playing with another role good luck in Savage next week! There's hope healers are playable in 8.0 again. See you in two years c:
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  2. #7722
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    Remember_The_Name's Avatar
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    Caroline Frost
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Dawntrail introduced new healer role quests. And what an amazing quests they were:

    "Umm, hey you! Please, cast Esuna on this one... now this one... now these 3 people... and again on this one. Nicely done! Class quest complete! Off with you until 8.0!"


    In those very same quests it was aknowledged that whatever debuffs were afflicting citizens, any adventuring conjurer with Esuna or simple Spine drops/Echo drops/Antidote were sufficient enough to deal with them (thanks by the way for reminding us that they exist, honestly)

    Yep, not a single mention what healer you are, the reach of your powers, and what miracles you can perform.

    It felt like spin-off quests for any healer at low levels merged with Hildibrand for giggles.

    The end quest duty is just... Alright, I will play along and enjoy the comedy relief! You couldn't deliver a story, but at least mechanic wise you will enterain me, right? Right?

    Oh, it is just more Esuna spam and the whole "healing" requirement was rendered by a simple change: the accompanying us NPC didn't had a "mircale potion" in their pouch that heals them for half HP per chug. What, I thought every NPC had one for other solo duites, what the matter with this girl?!

    Wow, just wow...
    No debuff plays with Heavy that you better remove quick or you will not escape AoE in time
    No Slow to remove to keep better DPS
    No Blindness remove so you can keep hitting the enemy
    No Stun or Bind to remove to help yourself escape from Aoe
    No lethal poison-based Doom where you need to heal NPC to full to remove it.
    Hell, even the crappy poison you have to Esuna multiple times in the duty doesn't have dedicated Poison debuff but a generic Bleeding one, lol.

    The villains are total slapsticks, but everyone else are keeping serious faces and pretending like this is serious issue. They are presenting serious problem with poisoning the waterways, but give us a goofy fight with goofy music. If you wanted to deliver me a comedy, than just drop that pretense and go full Hildibrand. At least I can get some laugh from it.

    Can I have some respect for selecting the Healer role to play at level 100, Square?

    Seriously, everyone were clowning at White mage level 50 "Heal the tree" job quest. But, at least, it made me feel important and feel that I am indeed playing a Healer!


    P.S. And this is not the running theme with other role quests. In other stories, at least, the player character was aknowledged in their role and in one way or another presented how they are proficient with it.
    Meanwhile, back to healers... we get fart bombs thrown in our face. Multiple times. And our worst enemies are... mammets... and arcanist girl on drugs. It almost like Square is trying to send us a message about healer class...
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  3. #7723
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remember_The_Name View Post
    Dawntrail introduced new healer role quests. And what an amazing quests they were:

    "Umm, hey you! Please, cast Esuna on this one... now this one... now these 3 people... and again on this one. Nicely done! Class quest complete! Off with you until 8.0!"

    *snip*

    P.S. And this is not the running theme with other role quests. In other stories, at least, the player character was aknowledged in their role and in one way or another presented how they are proficient with it.
    Meanwhile, back to healers... we get fart bombs thrown in our face. Multiple times. And our worst enemies are... mammets... and arcanist girl on drugs. It almost like Square is trying to send us a message about healer class...
    yeah, it was hilarious... at level 100... and for all the installments from 90 to 100.... our main spell was a level 10 ability.

    thanks for making healers feel... needed....

    "accessbility"... amirite?
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  4. #7724
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    Sarevok_Thordin's Avatar
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    Sarevok Thordin
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    Is this actually still going on, I'm having no problems getting DF to pop even as a dps.
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  5. #7725
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    Payne Leonhart
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    healing is hard in dt... everyone dies all the time over and over to the exact same things... they cant seem to figure it out after becoming accustomed to braindead content for 5 years.
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  6. #7726
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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    yeah, it was hilarious... at level 100... and for all the installments from 90 to 100.... our main spell was a level 10 ability.

    thanks for making healers feel... needed....
    Ideally, it's foreshadowing that they're planning to once again include more dispellable debuffs as part of fights in the near future? The role quests I've done so far (including the Healer one) seem more focused on story than action, but in the Lvl 100 duty, you're certainly doing a lot more than just casting Esuna...it's just one gimmick in the fight.

    Yep, not a single mention what healer you are, the reach of your powers, and what miracles you can perform.
    Because none of those are necessary. They were just looking for a healer. It doesn't matter what "type" of healer you are, and given how they're from a rather isolated village, it would probably be meaningless to them, anyway.

    Wow, just wow...
    No debuff plays with Heavy...
    So, they started including debuffs, but because they didn't include every possible one under the sun that would require the same response, they're terrible? *sigh*

    The villains are total slapsticks, but everyone else are keeping serious faces and pretending like this is serious issue. They are presenting serious problem with poisoning the waterways, but give us a goofy fight with goofy music. If you wanted to deliver me a comedy, than just drop that pretense and go full Hildibrand. At least I can get some laugh from it.
    The role quests all involve various degrees of humor. As do a variety of quests throughout the entire history FFXIV, not even counting the Hildibrand ones...

    But, at least, it made me feel important and feel that I am indeed playing a Healer!
    As you mentioned, the NPC you work with in the final duty doesn't have a "miracle potion". You're definitely playing a Healer throughout the entirety of that fight.

    Is this actually still going on, I'm having no problems getting DF to pop even as a dps.
    It is. The "strike" people just never accepted that they're so ridiculously small in number compared to the playerbase that this was never going to do anything. Let alone going on "strike" at the start of a new expansion when a ton of people will be returning and just filling the role in their place...
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  7. #7727
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It is. The "strike" people just never accepted that they're so ridiculously small in number compared to the playerbase that this was never going to do anything. Let alone going on "strike" at the start of a new expansion when a ton of people will be returning and just filling the role in their place...
    and 90% of them have been shit. Haven't used Bloodbath so often as a DPS as I have this expansion just to survive unavoidable damage because these replacements couldn't heal their way thru a wet paper bag, much less a dungeon.
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  8. #7728
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Ideally, it's foreshadowing that they're planning to once again include more dispellable debuffs as part of fights in the near future? The role quests I've done so far (including the Healer one) seem more focused on story than action, but in the Lvl 100 duty, you're certainly doing a lot more than just casting Esuna...it's just one gimmick in the fight.

    The role quests all involve various degrees of humor. As do a variety of quests throughout the entire history FFXIV, not even counting the Hildibrand ones...

    It is. The "strike" people just never accepted that they're so ridiculously small in number compared to the playerbase that this was never going to do anything. Let alone going on "strike" at the start of a new expansion when a ton of people will be returning and just filling the role in their place...
    you'll have to excuse me if I dont hold my breath waiting for more things to dispell. oh yes, I was also casting a lot of glares, a few dias a heal or two.... certainly foreshadowing whats to come. a lot more of what we had previously...

    you know, for us being a small minority you certainly spent a large amount of time here commenting and bumping the thread. whats your deal in all this. closet supporter?
    (9)
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  9. #7729
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Lol I did the level 100 healer duty in level 90 gear and still didn't need to use all of my kit. Maybe I should try level 80 gear in the next expansion.
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  10. #7730
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    All of the DT role quests were hilariously bad

    It’s not even the team rocket villains (I actually found the healer villain hilarious, especially since we sent them blasting off at the end and we even saw the star, that’s like peak team rocket) it’s the fact that none of the quests respect the role you are supposed to be

    The caster role quest was for casters because they wanted someone magically inclined to figure out what the artefact does, the PLD miqote chick ends up being the one to figure out what it does while we do nothing, the phys ranged one said something like needing someone to strike from a distance because the shield blowback effect- which never ever came into play anyway and you could fight him at melee ranged, the tank one the NPC you help is also a tank so you offer nothing unique, the melee one doesn’t even justify why they want a melee specifically other than the NPC being a ARC

    Healer ironically justifies itself best but in the most superficial way as the only debuffs you are inflicted with you barely even need to bother cleansing and the damage in the fight is so low you are barely doing anything

    These role quests feel like a “combined society of x role” when you hit level 30 in every job of the role, not the level 100 quests
    (10)
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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