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  1. #7721
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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    yeah, it was hilarious... at level 100... and for all the installments from 90 to 100.... our main spell was a level 10 ability.

    thanks for making healers feel... needed....
    Ideally, it's foreshadowing that they're planning to once again include more dispellable debuffs as part of fights in the near future? The role quests I've done so far (including the Healer one) seem more focused on story than action, but in the Lvl 100 duty, you're certainly doing a lot more than just casting Esuna...it's just one gimmick in the fight.

    Yep, not a single mention what healer you are, the reach of your powers, and what miracles you can perform.
    Because none of those are necessary. They were just looking for a healer. It doesn't matter what "type" of healer you are, and given how they're from a rather isolated village, it would probably be meaningless to them, anyway.

    Wow, just wow...
    No debuff plays with Heavy...
    So, they started including debuffs, but because they didn't include every possible one under the sun that would require the same response, they're terrible? *sigh*

    The villains are total slapsticks, but everyone else are keeping serious faces and pretending like this is serious issue. They are presenting serious problem with poisoning the waterways, but give us a goofy fight with goofy music. If you wanted to deliver me a comedy, than just drop that pretense and go full Hildibrand. At least I can get some laugh from it.
    The role quests all involve various degrees of humor. As do a variety of quests throughout the entire history FFXIV, not even counting the Hildibrand ones...

    But, at least, it made me feel important and feel that I am indeed playing a Healer!
    As you mentioned, the NPC you work with in the final duty doesn't have a "miracle potion". You're definitely playing a Healer throughout the entirety of that fight.

    Is this actually still going on, I'm having no problems getting DF to pop even as a dps.
    It is. The "strike" people just never accepted that they're so ridiculously small in number compared to the playerbase that this was never going to do anything. Let alone going on "strike" at the start of a new expansion when a ton of people will be returning and just filling the role in their place...
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  2. #7722
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It is. The "strike" people just never accepted that they're so ridiculously small in number compared to the playerbase that this was never going to do anything. Let alone going on "strike" at the start of a new expansion when a ton of people will be returning and just filling the role in their place...
    and 90% of them have been shit. Haven't used Bloodbath so often as a DPS as I have this expansion just to survive unavoidable damage because these replacements couldn't heal their way thru a wet paper bag, much less a dungeon.
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  3. #7723
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Ideally, it's foreshadowing that they're planning to once again include more dispellable debuffs as part of fights in the near future? The role quests I've done so far (including the Healer one) seem more focused on story than action, but in the Lvl 100 duty, you're certainly doing a lot more than just casting Esuna...it's just one gimmick in the fight.

    The role quests all involve various degrees of humor. As do a variety of quests throughout the entire history FFXIV, not even counting the Hildibrand ones...

    It is. The "strike" people just never accepted that they're so ridiculously small in number compared to the playerbase that this was never going to do anything. Let alone going on "strike" at the start of a new expansion when a ton of people will be returning and just filling the role in their place...
    you'll have to excuse me if I dont hold my breath waiting for more things to dispell. oh yes, I was also casting a lot of glares, a few dias a heal or two.... certainly foreshadowing whats to come. a lot more of what we had previously...

    you know, for us being a small minority you certainly spent a large amount of time here commenting and bumping the thread. whats your deal in all this. closet supporter?
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  4. #7724
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Lol I did the level 100 healer duty in level 90 gear and still didn't need to use all of my kit. Maybe I should try level 80 gear in the next expansion.
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  5. #7725
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    All of the DT role quests were hilariously bad

    It’s not even the team rocket villains (I actually found the healer villain hilarious, especially since we sent them blasting off at the end and we even saw the star, that’s like peak team rocket) it’s the fact that none of the quests respect the role you are supposed to be

    The caster role quest was for casters because they wanted someone magically inclined to figure out what the artefact does, the PLD miqote chick ends up being the one to figure out what it does while we do nothing, the phys ranged one said something like needing someone to strike from a distance because the shield blowback effect- which never ever came into play anyway and you could fight him at melee ranged, the tank one the NPC you help is also a tank so you offer nothing unique, the melee one doesn’t even justify why they want a melee specifically other than the NPC being a ARC

    Healer ironically justifies itself best but in the most superficial way as the only debuffs you are inflicted with you barely even need to bother cleansing and the damage in the fight is so low you are barely doing anything

    These role quests feel like a “combined society of x role” when you hit level 30 in every job of the role, not the level 100 quests
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  6. #7726
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    and 90% of them have been shit. Haven't used Bloodbath so often as a DPS as I have this expansion just to survive unavoidable damage because these replacements couldn't heal their way thru a wet paper bag, much less a dungeon.
    I've been seeing quite a lot of healers who are so used to EW content that they just heal the party up really slowly and people occasionally just die to unavoidable damage because damage doesn't come out in 60s intervals like it did in EW anymore.
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  7. #7727
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I've been seeing quite a lot of healers who are so used to EW content that they just heal the party up really slowly and people occasionally just die to unavoidable damage because damage doesn't come out in 60s intervals like it did in EW anymore.
    I was stuck for 45 minutes in Skydeep Cenote, going thru 3 healers on the last boss because they couldn't stay alive.

    Party was a DRK, myself as a NIN, my friend on their BRD and a SCH/SGE/AST.
    The SCH died at the start of the last boss 3 times in a row before they just left, probably from embarrassment.
    The SGE just failed to heal at all during the stack mechanics. Complained about lack of mitigation, despite several times when Feint, Troubadour, etc being up. Never saw a Panhaima that's for damn sure so we just booted them after they became belligerent.
    The AST got into the dungeon and D/c'd never to return.

    My friend got fed up with it, left to requeue as his SCH and we got a replacement VPR and cleared it 1st try. He had to do leveling roulette again and I went healer to repay him but god, it was just an awful experience
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    Last edited by Silver-Strider; 07-28-2024 at 02:34 PM.

  8. #7728
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    The SGE just failed to heal at all during the stack mechanics. Complained about lack of mitigation, despite several times when Feint, Troubadour, etc being up. Never saw a Panhaima that's for damn sure so we just booted them after they became beligerant.
    This part is just wild to me.

    How is a SGE complaining about lack of mitigation in a dungeon? When they have:

    > Kerachole
    > Holos
    > Panhaima
    > Zoe + E.Prognosis
    > Physis + E.Prognosis
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  9. #7729
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    No need to really strike, we are not needed anymore. I tried one of the new expert dungeons and died on the final boss very early. The group cleared the boss without me.

    Tank self sustain is beyond crazy broken but dps self sustain is not far behind. I watched them all heal to full constantly. It was very depressing as a healer.
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  10. #7730
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    This part is just wild to me.

    How is a SGE complaining about lack of mitigation in a dungeon? When they have:

    > Kerachole
    > Holos
    > Panhaima
    > Zoe + E.Prognosis
    > Physis + E.Prognosis
    I wish I was joking but I have gotten so many awful healers this expansion that I've rearranged my hotbar just to keep any and all self heals/mitigation as easily accessible as possible on my DPS jobs. I don't trust them anymore that when I get a good one, I will always commend them without hesitation.
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