Pictomancer is insanely overtuned and needs to be fixed before savage drops.

[Galvuu]

3. Really don't get this sentiment when DPS checks were a major part of on patch difficulty for TOP, and the DPS check for it was still relevant even a few patches later.

Anyway, I'd just prefer that PCT get some of its damage shifted into its uptime combos rather than its muses, that would mitigate the problem somewhat.

While I'm ambivalent towards your suggestion (it could work), it's funny that it wouldn't change much of anything in TOP, because the phases with a tight check- p1 and p6- are pure uptime.

Picto needs a nerf, and even with Squares Mentality to just bring everyone up it doesnt work this time, we are not talking about a small gap or a lil bigger gap, we are talking about 8% to the next highest DPS, its way too much.

Where are you getting this figure from? I can't even challenge this because I can't find this specific number anywhere.

[AvoSturmfaust]

While I'm ambivalent towards your suggestion (it could work), it's funny that it wouldn't change much of anything in TOP, because the phases with a tight check- p1 and p6- are pure uptime.



Where are you getting this figure from? I can't even challenge this because I can't find this specific number anywhere.

Just ask the Balance Mentors, its like always a hot topic there, and if you wanna clearly numbers, check FFLogs, do a bit Math and you see it for yourself.

[Galvuu]

Just ask the Balance Mentors, its like always a hot topic there, and if you wanna clearly numbers, check FFLogs, do a bit Math and you see it for yourself.

I did check fflogs, and I did do the math, and Picto leads between 1.8% to 2.5%, depending on the metric, for current NM raids (it's obviously behind in adps).
For extreme trials, Picto doesn't even lead in most percentiles- it's 2nd in rdps and 3rd in cdps until the 90% percentile, where it finally takes over by a small sub 1% margin (so PCT is behind other jobs in rdps, adps and cdps until you hit the top 10% parses).
So I have no idea where this 8% figure came from. That's kinda why you need to explain what fight and what percentiles you're looking for, or I could open a random log and say a bogus number.
I'm not on the Balance, so idk what's being posted there, but the logs we have clearly show that the 8% number seems to be flat out wrong/fabricated.

[remiff]

I did check fflogs, and I did do the math, and Picto leads between 1.8% to 2.5%, depending on the metric, for current NM raids (it's obviously behind in adps).
For extreme trials, Picto doesn't even lead in most percentiles- it's 2nd in rdps and 3rd in cdps until the 90% percentile, where it finally takes over by a small sub 1% margin (so PCT is behind other jobs in rdps, adps and cdps until you hit the top 10% parses).
So I have no idea where this 8% figure came from. That's kinda why you need to explain what fight and what percentiles you're looking for, or I could open a random log and say a bogus number.
I'm not on the Balance, so idk what's being posted there, but the logs we have clearly show that the 8% number seems to be flat out wrong/fabricated.

He is probably talking about an 8-10% difference compared to the lowest DPS on the LOG list, which is the case.