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  1. #7061
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    Basteala Thayne
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    I think people do need to be realistic here. For the most part, queues aren't drastically different. DPS queues are a little longer off peak hours, but that's really about it. There was a way worse shortage during EW's launch, ironically because EVERYONE was playing healer: Sage. Leveling it.

    That said as a former healer myself I will say the quality of healing has definitely dipped. And I imagine higher levels of play might be feeling it more than casuals, particularly in party finder. I say "probably" because i have very little interest in PF Raiding.

    Not to say I'm unsympathetic. One reason I rolled off Scholar is because of how boring it is 90% of the time. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, healer is the only role that punishes you for knowing how to play it. At this point healer really needs a complete rebalance of abilities--more damaging abilities, fewer healing ones. Not even for how mindless CDs are outside of the top 10% of play, but also because CDs are where class identity really feels the most compromised. How every healer wants to play barely matters if the solution to every bad situation is "oh blow a CD or two."
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  2. #7062
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    Lynlia Crux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saya8008 View Post
    If I didn't know you were striking I never would have guessed. It has not effected me in a single way since the release of DT and there are thousands of healers online 247 playing the game. This is not a good way to get what you want and you are only effecting yourself and your enjoyment but go off.
    Lets not forget that the forums are always read by small minority of the playerbase and even less of them actually take part in writing in them. My personal guess, your average "log in, do a roullete, log out" healer Joe at best has heard of the healer strike and doesnt care. At worst hasn't even heard about it and carries on as usually.
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  3. #7063
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revash View Post
    Lets not forget that the forums are always read by small minority of the playerbase and even less of them actually take part in writing in them. My personal guess, your average "log in, do a roullete, log out" healer Joe at best has heard of the healer strike and doesnt care. At worst hasn't even heard about it and carries on as usually.
    I find it very unlikely that they haven't heard of it. I barely browsed the forums before DT but even as a casual fan of FF content creators that I watch once in a blue moon, I heard about it. Hell, for a time you could google "FF14 healer" and it was the first result. People meme on the healer strike and joke about it even in duties, and even though that might be bad publicity for the strike, it's still publicity.

    You just have a situation where a lot of people don't care if healing is too easy--or if anything, they welcome that braindead play. I imagine there's no shortage of tanks or healers that do those roles simply for the quick queue times, not to actually play the role "properly".
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  4. #7064
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saya8008 View Post
    If I didn't know you were striking I never would have guessed. It has not effected me in a single way since the release of DT and there are thousands of healers online 247 playing the game. This is not a good way to get what you want and you are only effecting yourself and your enjoyment but go off.
    I have to say that the strike has affected me greatly!

    not maining a healer this expansion has allowed me to very much enjoy being DPS. yes, I could have been a better healer than many currently filling the roles to have faster queue times, but, I am enjoying my job, at least until SE kills dps as well in order to make things less stressful for the poor dps jobs.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  5. #7065
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    You just have a situation where a lot of people don't care if healing is too easy--or if anything, they welcome that braindead play. I imagine there's no shortage of tanks or healers that do those roles simply for the quick queue times, not to actually play the role "properly".
    Well thats what the "silent majority is". The loudest people will always be in the minority. Thats pretty much for every gaming community where people just log in, play a bit and log off without giving a care on whats buffed/nerfed, what ceo did what and etc..and rarely if ever reads any forums/news regarding it.
    People who yell for or against whatever issue are always be in the minority cause not many people will develop a passion for a video game where others sees as "some random pixels to waste 1-2hs in an evening.
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  6. #7066
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    I don't understand this strike at all, i always played healer since HW (WHM and Scholar from ShB).... It's true i'm missing Stone Skin, and the aqua spell (the one that did damage and was slowing down), the MP management.

    But, from the beginning,healer never had any real DPS choice... For a while, Scholar did have a lot of DoT, renmant of the old ARC/SMN.... but that's all

    It's true we were more busy because enmity was working in another way, and tank wasn't sturdy as they are now (and skill were using TP, so less DPS).

    The problem, in the end, it's not the healers kit, but how the game system evoloved whithout us.... And, be serious, it's not a useless DPS rotation that will chag,e something (and if they implement a DPS rotation to healer, you can be sure that it will only one button combo like VPR and Picto....so...)

    It's the entire role that need to evolve and change, but, do you see CU3 do something like that? I mean, right now we heal more than enough to keep a full team alive easily... I think it's all they see. For them it's working, and since it's working, why "breaking it", by changing it completly?

    So, i realy think your strike it's pointless, it will change nothing at all, and, anyway, people doing the "strike", are in fact a very little minority and it doesn't impact the game at all.... so....
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  7. #7067
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    I don't understand this strike at all, i always played healer since HW (WHM and Scholar from ShB).... It's true i'm missing Stone Skin, and the aqua spell (the one that did damage and was slowing down), the MP management.

    But, from the beginning,healer never had any real DPS choice... For a while, Scholar did have a lot of DoT, renmant of the old ARC/SMN.... but that's all

    It's true we were more busy because enmity was working in another way, and tank wasn't sturdy as they are now (and skill were using TP, so less DPS).

    The problem, in the end, it's not the healers kit, but how the game system evoloved whithout us.... And, be serious, it's not a useless DPS rotation that will chag,e something (and if they implement a DPS rotation to healer, you can be sure that it will only one button combo like VPR and Picto....so...)

    It's the entire role that need to evolve and change, but, do you see CU3 do something like that? I mean, right now we heal more than enough to keep a full team alive easily... I think it's all they see. For them it's working, and since it's working, why "breaking it", by changing it completly?

    So, i realy think your strike it's pointless, it will change nothing at all, and, anyway, people doing the "strike", are in fact a very little minority and it doesn't impact the game at all.... so....
    My faith in them actually fixing things is zero, because they're too far up their own egos to do what saved ARR, and just borrow better design from other games again.
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  8. #7068
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Also if people complaining about the Strike would actual read the very first post of said Strike they would know that its not about Disrupting the Game but getting attention for the problem.
    Which the Striker certainly does get.
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  9. #7069
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revash View Post
    Well thats what the "silent majority is". The loudest people will always be in the minority. Thats pretty much for every gaming community where people just log in, play a bit and log off without giving a care on whats buffed/nerfed, what ceo did what and etc..and rarely if ever reads any forums/news regarding it.
    People who yell for or against whatever issue are always be in the minority cause not many people will develop a passion for a video game where others sees as "some random pixels to waste 1-2hs in an evening.
    I think there's a difference between silent and indifferent here. There are times the Silent Majority might care about something in the game. The question of role homogenization before recent xpacs comes to mind. But in this case your silent majority--if anything--probably wants the class to be easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    I don't understand this strike at all, i always played healer since HW (WHM and Scholar from ShB).... It's true i'm missing Stone Skin, and the aqua spell (the one that did damage and was slowing down), the MP management.

    But, from the beginning,healer never had any real DPS choice... For a while, Scholar did have a lot of DoT, renmant of the old ARC/SMN.... but that's all

    It's true we were more busy because enmity was working in another way, and tank wasn't sturdy as they are now (and skill were using TP, so less DPS).

    The problem, in the end, it's not the healers kit, but how the game system evoloved whithout us.... And, be serious, it's not a useless DPS rotation that will chag,e something (and if they implement a DPS rotation to healer, you can be sure that it will only one button combo like VPR and Picto....so...)

    It's the entire role that need to evolve and change, but, do you see CU3 do something like that? I mean, right now we heal more than enough to keep a full team alive easily... I think it's all they see. For them it's working, and since it's working, why "breaking it", by changing it completly?

    So, i realy think your strike it's pointless, it will change nothing at all, and, anyway, people doing the "strike", are in fact a very little minority and it doesn't impact the game at all.... so....
    You've correctly cited a bunch of small issues where a healer experience is concerned, but at the end of the day, they all add up. Leveling SCH nearly put me to sleep.
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  10. #7070
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    I will also add that i know people that participate in the Strike but dont interact active in the Forum or the official discord.
    So its not like the Strike is a solid union with memberlist.
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