#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Evergrey]

Like this. Healing strikers = mocking peoples jobs and making fun of them. That is the Healing Strike. Thanks Isala for proving that.

You're literally ruining people experience in a new expansion (30 minutes queues for DPS at times) over a tantrum. That's what the healing strike is viewed as and everyone else if correct. I hope you all feel good about yourselves.

30 Minutes queue for a DPS is not even that long to be honest.
I'm used to around 1h+ queueing as a DPS in pretty much any other MMO that I've played.
I guess DPS in FFXIV has been spoiled for some time.
During EW I was constantly surprised when I queued as a DPS and barely had to wait at all.

[PapaIggy]

I got a 7 day ban for calling someone narcissistic. First and only time I have been banned from these forums and that is the only comment that was removed. So yeah I'm going to say mass reporting shenanigans because I didn't 100% support the strike.

[PercibelTheren]

I'm seeing a potential problem here for the pro Healer Strike people. They don't care at all about the little guy and are all elitist raiders.

Here we go again. Can people please make their mind up already? Are we stupid plebs with skill issues who have no right to talk because we haven't achieved some arbitrary milestone, or are we too elite to understand the casual? Which is it? Because it can't be both.

Also, it seems that not everyone agrees about jobs with a lot of buttons being hard to play on console. Take a look at this thread:https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...nd_controller/

[Kacho_Nacho]

Perhaps they think that destroying the strike would make everyone participating in it go back to queueing as healer?

I feel that is the core motivation. Unfortunately, it won't work out that way. Regardless of whether the strike loses its momentum or not, the players participating are going to play what they enjoy.

Being a WHM, SCH, AST, or SGE isn't a job. Square Enix isn't paying us to heal in group content. So, someone thinking all they have to do is break the strike to force the healers (workers) back to their jobs is living in a fantasy land.

Now, if someone at Square Enix is hiring healers for FFXIV, my requirements are a beginning wage of $39.50 per hour, a matching 401K, and insurance which covers vision and dental.

Until I'm sitting at my computer as an employee of Square Enix, I'm playing what I want.

[Ritsugamesh]

Remember you are worthless healer mains the strike means nothing. Just play a different role.
Also stop being selfish and play healer you're purposely griefing peoples roles I want my DPS queues to be lower.
Also you're all elitist and not thinking about casual players and also your parses show you're bad and casual at the game so we don't need your opinions.
No I will not be playing healer that role sucks why are you telling me to?

Am I missing any?

This right here.

[BunnyQueen]

Remember you are worthless healer mains the strike means nothing. Just play a different role.
Also stop being selfish and play healer you're purposely griefing peoples roles I want my DPS queues to be lower.
Also you're all elitist and not thinking about casual players and also your parses show you're bad and casual at the game so we don't need your opinions.
No I will not be playing healer that role sucks why are you telling me to?

Am I missing any?

This sums up so much of the argument people are trying to use rofl!

[BunnyQueen]

Oh noooo... people don't like a job, so they don't play that job, they should be forced to play that job they don't like, oh noooooo.

If Square wants me to play healer again, they can make healers fun to play again. We had those DPS kits we supposedly "don't have room for" back then and did fine. We liked that we had to perform that balancing act between damage and healing rather than spamming Broil. For all your tantrums about how we're "mocking jobs", you yourself are mocking what people found fun in the past.

But if we get what we want he won't be allowed to be lazy anymore and he will finally have to put into effort. Effort scares him.

[Kazumi_Ametrine]

Just to put my two cents in.

To get what those involved in the healer strike is asking for is to gatekeep healing. The ego one must have to claim that "No role in the game pushes this skill more than healer", what a load of crock honestly. And I say that as a healer main who is quite skilled herself. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Tanks have to do a lot to ensure they stay alive, because guess what, in raid settings they are not going to survive on their own without us. Likewise, if they die, it is unlikely that we will survive because those auto attacks the tanks tank pack quite a wallop. Sure you get the occasional quick save with healer LB3 or you might have someone particularly skilled able to raise the tanks quick enough to survive such a thing, but it is not often. And of course the DPS need to master their rotations to be properly effective.

With regard to the dungeons, there is a reason why dungeons are so easy. It's for the casual crowd. Highly skilled anyone is going to be bored in those dungeons, period. They made the content more difficult this time around, but it's still "easy" enough so as not to be overwhelming to casual players.

Regarding the other roles having self sustain? Melee and phys ranged get what, second wind? That's barely a quarter of their HP, if that. Bloodbath is only available for melee, and casters? Ha, nope (red mage gets vercure but let's be real, that falls right within the lore). Also, I can't tell you how many times I've seen a red mage save the party when BOTH HEALERS DIE. As for Tanks, warrior's whole shtick is literally being "warrior smash, warrior self sufficient." Paladins have holy magicks after a fashion and frankly reminds me most of war cleric in D&D. Dark knights don't get much in self sustain—they get Abyssal Drain which is only really effective in AoE, and then living dead, which they get every 5 minutes and they have to be healed to full or else they die. I'm not so sure about gunbreaker and their capabilities, but i've never seen a GNB finish off a boss all on their own with no one else. Even when I do see a tank pull it off on their own, I cheer them on. You know why? Because they are succeeding where EVERYONE ELSE FAILED. Frankly, the fact that you have to watch a tank do that sounds more of a skill issue and less of a design flaw.

Also, I love that these classes have self sustain. It helps ME out as the healer, because I don't have to be like "oh s---" and trying to save them because they stepped in bad. I can effectively triage who needs what.

[Kazumi_Ametrine]

Concerning the homogenization of healer jobs, this is not a healer unique issue. This is a problem with tanks. This is a problem with DPS. And we won't even get into crafting and gathering. DPS use the same heccin 1-2-3 combo all over the place with a few things thrown in the mix. Tanks? 1-2-3 mitigate. It's all a matter of what flavor you wanna do.

With the low threat level, I dunno man, like, change doesn't come quick and looking at DT, I do like where it's going so far. They definitely ramped it up, and I get that this is a strike because of Endwalker and previous expansions, however... bearing in mind that change doesn't come quickly, it would be worth noting (tying in the above point) that Yoshi P has mentioned a desire to tweak classes to make them less homogenized, and therefore more interesting to play. That will likely in turn result in more difficult mechs within dungeons and such.

Healers are a support class. There is a reason why Meteor hasn't been depicted as a healer. We are support. We do what we can to support the party in heals and shielding. And we do damage when we can when healing isn't necessary. I don't personally get why folks are so upset that healer isn't being given many dps buttons. I figure if you want to dps, then play a dps. But this healer strike feels more like an ego move and development of a god complex. I think the biggest take away too is to remember that we are part of a team. Healers most certainly do have a place. Okay so what if your tank can literally run the dungeon by himself? What about your dps? They certainly can't. And even if you don't heal, the additional DPS you provide will help kill things faster.

I will not partake in the healer strike, I'm gonna play the game as a healer because it's a game and I want to have fun. I get that it's a protest, but the protest seems rather weak and isn't rooted in reality in terms of what the game is trying to achieve.

Finally, I personally see the role of healer as a doctor of sorts. Do no harm. This protest frankly does harm not only to those who are trying to play and causing queues to be high, but it also makes the collective healer community look elitist and frankly... really... egotistic. And frankly, I'm appalled by some of the behavior I've heard and witnessed regarding those participating in the strike who do queue as healer. Being rude, demanding, and straight up just leaving dungeons because oh no, the tank is doing the final boss on their own because you (collective you) and everyone else died? Not cool. It's just a game and isn't that serious friends.

[Supersnow845]

snip for both halves of this comment

How is it gate keeping to say “no other role pushes this skill more than healer” when literally all healers press broil/dosis whatever more than 50% of the time while no other class exceeds 25% of buttons being one press (and before you say “oh it’s because of 1-2-3” the class with the highest percentage of singular button presses when you consider 1-2-3 as one button is WAR at about 38%, SCH is at 67% with broil. We have FFlogs to prove that, there is no “I don’t feel like that’s right” about hard data

I don’t think you understand just how overpowered the tanks are. The tanks don’t have to try to stay alive. They have an inbuilt 80% damage reduction because of their gear. Savage doesn’t even hurt them they just kitchen sink the TB and go right back to being immortal. In casual content they basically can’t die, they didn’t succeed where others failed, the game just doesn’t allow them to fail. That’s a big difference and is causing a lot of friction in DT. You say that healers have a space in the party but it’s all too easy to replace them with overpowered tanks. That’s half the issue. As for “broil broil broil is the same as 1-2-3 mitigate on tanks” I’ll just direct you back to button presses over a fight as shown by FFlogs because they are nothing remotely similar

ALSO ALSO ALSO I USUALLY DONT GET ANGRY IN THESE POSTS BUT AS A DOCTOR IRL HOW DARE YOU EVOKE THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH TO MAKE A POINT (okay rant over)