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  1. #6321
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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFishnomer View Post
    So, genuine question, I dont feel this strike because I play with friends which some of which are healers, but do people feel this?
    I see a lot of dps waiting in q but that is nothing new and with 2 new dps jobs it's likely even harsher, so, do you think this is making a difference?
    So far, nope. I've been leveling my SCH exclusively thru roulettes, and was "hoping" there would be more Healer "in need" than usual, but...nope. So many times I call up the roulettes and it's still Tank from top to bottom.

    Not surprising, though. The number of people involved in this "strike" is barely a grain of sand compared to the size of the playerbase. Not to mention the timing - doing it right as a new xpac launches means there's a ton of new and returning players, so chances are for every person who goes on "strike", there's several others already stepping in to take their place.
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  2. #6322
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    Well I think going on strike is also just dumb,
    I will quit playing healer 4 weeks after savage releases and I have all my gear.
    Then I will be a pf dps.
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  3. #6323
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    elioaiko's Avatar
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    Junhee Hatsuharu
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 94
    Tbf ppl are either putting up with it to please their FC/friends.

    I only do it for ppl who ask nicely. I had a really bad experience in roulette earlier and it enrages me bc bad players just expect healers to do the most while point fingers when things go wrong–and out of my control.

    All the simplifying of healers is just make good players leave out of frustration and new ones clueless since they're going to be praised for doing the bare minimum while bashing vets for wanting more.

    Atp I'm just waiting for the excuses and over buffing of healers to compensate for "Oh sorry we forgot a out you guys!"
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  4. #6324
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    I think the real tell is going to be Party Finder. And a quick glance shows a lot of open groups waiting on healers...

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  5. #6325
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    lolnotacat's Avatar
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I think the real tell is going to be Party Finder. And a quick glance shows a lot of open groups waiting on healers...

    I main healer and that's usually the case, excluding the start of EW because we got SGE.
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  6. #6326
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    SoloD007's Avatar
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    Jin Azai
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    Ravana
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    I'm just here to add my name. I've long since said my piece, I'm tired of my feedback being ignored.

    I'm not touching healer for DT in any content except maybe trusts.

    Edit:

    Because a lot of people like to read my post (looking at you content creators) may as well add this:

    The healer strike is not because of a DT dungeon being completed without healers. This was happening in EW. Its because of a multitude of things:
    • Lack of changes going into DT for healers (still boring 111111 spam; a proc after a 2 minute recast timer buff does not change that)
    • Increased tank sustain that they didn't need because again, THIS HAPPENED IN EW. WHY is it being made WORSE?
    • Unwanted changes to the classes in the upcoming expac (Seraphism, AST card changes)
    • The dev team's apparent unwillingness to change or even listen to feed back

    We're striking because we're still being ignored.

    We're tired of being ignored:


    "Go Play Ultimate" thread made by healers in response to YoshiP's statement where they complained that we should be engaged in all forms of content NOT just Ultimate - 22/2/19 and where this whole thing even spawned from.

    "A summary of healer issues" made back in the SHADOWBRINGERS ERA 20/5/8.

    Mentions of tank healing being too high back in 2021.

    More talks about how boring healing is back in 2022

    Ya'll are acting like WE'RE acting this is new. Its not new. We're just sick of it.
    You might want to take a look at this. For astro (and for people supporting healer strike).

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...6321a515d36909
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  7. #6327
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloD007 View Post
    You might want to take a look at this. For astro (and for people supporting healer strike).

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...6321a515d36909
    We’ve noticed. No mention of white mage, scholar, or sage.

    Astro is getting:
    - an adjustment to Macrocosmos that should’ve been there at launch anyway.
    - faster cards, which will address some of the issue with the new card system, but most of the new cards are still hilariously superfluous.
    - Adjustments to Lightspeed’s cooldown and a charge that are nice QoL buffs that people were asking for 2 years ago when Astros burst started to demand Lightspeed. So while it’s nice, why did this take so long?

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  8. #6328
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    So far, nope. I've been leveling my SCH exclusively thru roulettes, and was "hoping" there would be more Healer "in need" than usual, but...nope. So many times I call up the roulettes and it's still Tank from top to bottom.

    Not surprising, though. The number of people involved in this "strike" is barely a grain of sand compared to the size of the playerbase. Not to mention the timing - doing it right as a new xpac launches means there's a ton of new and returning players, so chances are for every person who goes on "strike", there's several others already stepping in to take their place.
    You do know that AIN doesn’t work like that right

    Tank is the default AIN and healer can only be AIN specifically when tank isn’t AIN

    So if you are looking at the levelling roulette and there are 30 parties that are looking for a healer, if even one of those parties is also looking for a tank then tank will be AIN despite there being a far higher need for healers

    It’s why at the dead of night when nobody is queuing tank is always just the default AIN

    lucky’s census for the end of EW shows there is about 1.2 million with capped healers and 1.7 with capped tanks so healer is definitely the rarer role
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  9. #6329
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    EusisLandale's Avatar
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    Eira Landale
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by currentlemon View Post
    With SGE, why does it have both Druochole and Taurochole in it's toolkit? Wouldn't be best if the former upgraded into the latter? One ability is clearly better than the other and the job doesn't need the extra oGCD heal.
    One's for consistent MP recovery, one's for mitigation. On both the healing is mostly just a bonus.
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  10. #6330
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    One's for consistent MP recovery, one's for mitigation. On both the healing is mostly just a bonus.
    It’s still not like taurochole is remotely overpowered or anything

    They could just upgrade druachole into taurochole and not give it a recast time

    Extra mitigation on the tank is functionally useless at this point
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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