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  1. #6131
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    I wonder why so many non healers come here to discourage the strike, is it because you don't want change? Don’t want to have to play a healer yourself? Maybe you think any criticism of the dev team is a reflection on you? Or do you simply dislike strikes? Genuinely curious!
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  2. #6132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketojan View Post
    I wonder why so many non healers come here to discourage the strike, is it because you don't want change? Don’t want to have to play a healer yourself? Maybe you think any criticism of the dev team is a reflection on you? Or do you simply dislike strikes? Genuinely curious!
    I'm not against changes. I do think healers should have more interesting dps kits etc.

    I'm not against playing healer. I play all three roles casually depending on my whims and what my friends need for roulettes on a given day.

    And I'm not against strikes. You know, real strikes. Like the recent writer/actor strikes. 100% behind those. People putting real effort into real causes that matter, for better working conditions and wages they deserve.

    I mock this 'strike' because it's silly. It's dumb. Because it's dramatic clickbait nonsense that might get a quick article or youtube video made during a content downtime, but is ultimately doomed to failure. Today is the day the strike was 'officially' supposed to start and I saw no difference in any of my roulette times as healer or tank. As expected the actual strike is turning out to be a wet fart.
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  3. #6133
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
    I'm not against changes. I do think healers should have more interesting dps kits etc.

    I'm not against playing healer. I play all three roles casually depending on my whims and what my friends need for roulettes on a given day.

    And I'm not against strikes. You know, real strikes. Like the recent writer/actor strikes. 100% behind those. People putting real effort into real causes that matter, for better working conditions and wages they deserve.

    I mock this 'strike' because it's silly. It's dumb. Because it's dramatic clickbait nonsense that might get a quick article or youtube video made during a content downtime, but is ultimately doomed to failure. Today is the day the strike was 'officially' supposed to start and I saw no difference in any of my roulette times as healer or tank. As expected the actual strike is turning out to be a wet fart.
    I’m still waiting for literally a single person to offer an alternative

    We knew the strike wouldn’t impact the queues, but now I’ve dumped my healers and am happily maining PCT, if the devs ever decide they need feedback there is a mountain of it on the healer forums already

    We got people talking. There is little else we can do
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  4. #6134
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
    I'm not against changes. I do think healers should have more interesting dps kits etc.

    I'm not against playing healer. I play all three roles casually depending on my whims and what my friends need for roulettes on a given day.

    And I'm not against strikes. You know, real strikes. Like the recent writer/actor strikes. 100% behind those. People putting real effort into real causes that matter, for better working conditions and wages they deserve.

    I mock this 'strike' because it's silly. It's dumb. Because it's dramatic clickbait nonsense that might get a quick article or youtube video made during a content downtime, but is ultimately doomed to failure. Today is the day the strike was 'officially' supposed to start and I saw no difference in any of my roulette times as healer or tank. As expected the actual strike is turning out to be a wet fart.
    I would argue that the main purpose of the strike was to get people to talk about it. And judging by the fact that this thread is sitting at a comfy 615 pages and has youtube videos and such about it, I'd say it has done a pretty good job.

    In the end, it's just a video game, so it can't have the same impact as a real world strike.
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  5. #6135
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    And with the strike turning into something more and more people talk about outside of the forums the more It turns into Image problem if nothing happens.

    Ingame Disruption wasn't the goal but Reading the first post in this thread would have told you that aswell. But the Disruptor Crowd seem to not do even that and just try to tell us similar things again and again.

    So the peacefully protest that didnt had as goal to disrupt doesn't actually disrupt, sounds like everything going as planned.
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    Last edited by Ayalu; 07-03-2024 at 03:57 PM.

  6. #6136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    Ingame Disruption wasn't the goal but Reading the first post in this thread would have told you that aswell. But the Disruptor Crowd seem to not do even that and just try to tell us similar things again and again.
    Says a lot about people who still support the current healer design, doesn’t it
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  7. #6137
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
    So at what point are we supposed to feel the impact of this strike exactly? Early access is over and we're into the 'official' launch and it's still no different than any other expansion launch when it comes to queue times between roles. When can we expect to see the results of this 'strike' in action?
    Unless you neglected to identify yourself as the representative of a group, that must be the royal "we".
    And the answer is- Never
    It's not about you. It never was.
    And I know this will be a bitter pill to swallow, but you will not be the one to decide the success or failure of this effort.

    Given the systemic damage done to the balance over the years, it will take significant time and effort to solve the legitimate issues raised by this discussion. Healers may be the most vocal right now, but they are certainly not the only ones who are unhappy.
    Whether or not SE will make the choice to do that work remains to be seen.
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    ...let's all just go play WAR, shall we?

  8. #6138
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
    So at what point are we supposed to feel the impact of this strike exactly? Early access is over and we're into the 'official' launch and it's still no different than any other expansion launch when it comes to queue times between roles. When can we expect to see the results of this 'strike' in action?
    ? Are the only strikes youre aware of only in reference to ones with drastic /actively visible and immediate outcomes? Plenty of strikes happen with the knoweldge nothing immediately will change, but are still done none the less more with the intent to bring awareness to something.

    Thats what a strike is, to voice a opinion of something from a collection of people who generally have the refusal/reluctance to do something (in this case healing).

    Alot of the "action" in this strike is really "I (this minority of players) will not be playing healers going forward because the job designs of other classes are simply more fun/engaging/better balanced within the trifecta and will play those instead while voicing my disappointment with the current state of healers in the meantime while hoping it improves(or unsub until it does.)"

    Noy trying to be mean but this comment just sounds so.... ????
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    Last edited by GoodPerson; 07-03-2024 at 04:26 PM.

  9. #6139
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    I am new to ffxiv,

    I want to understand if I can send a message to devs for potential improvement is that a thing?
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  10. #6140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    I am new to ffxiv,

    I want to understand if I can send a message to devs for potential improvement is that a thing?
    That’s what the forums are for

    We can only communicate directly with game masters for events relating to people breaking TOS
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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