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    I wonder why so many non healers come here to discourage the strike, is it because you don't want change? Don’t want to have to play a healer yourself? Maybe you think any criticism of the dev team is a reflection on you? Or do you simply dislike strikes? Genuinely curious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketojan View Post
    I wonder why so many non healers come here to discourage the strike, is it because you don't want change? Don’t want to have to play a healer yourself? Maybe you think any criticism of the dev team is a reflection on you? Or do you simply dislike strikes? Genuinely curious!
    I'm not against changes. I do think healers should have more interesting dps kits etc.

    I'm not against playing healer. I play all three roles casually depending on my whims and what my friends need for roulettes on a given day.

    And I'm not against strikes. You know, real strikes. Like the recent writer/actor strikes. 100% behind those. People putting real effort into real causes that matter, for better working conditions and wages they deserve.

    I mock this 'strike' because it's silly. It's dumb. Because it's dramatic clickbait nonsense that might get a quick article or youtube video made during a content downtime, but is ultimately doomed to failure. Today is the day the strike was 'officially' supposed to start and I saw no difference in any of my roulette times as healer or tank. As expected the actual strike is turning out to be a wet fart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
    I'm not against changes. I do think healers should have more interesting dps kits etc.

    I'm not against playing healer. I play all three roles casually depending on my whims and what my friends need for roulettes on a given day.

    And I'm not against strikes. You know, real strikes. Like the recent writer/actor strikes. 100% behind those. People putting real effort into real causes that matter, for better working conditions and wages they deserve.

    I mock this 'strike' because it's silly. It's dumb. Because it's dramatic clickbait nonsense that might get a quick article or youtube video made during a content downtime, but is ultimately doomed to failure. Today is the day the strike was 'officially' supposed to start and I saw no difference in any of my roulette times as healer or tank. As expected the actual strike is turning out to be a wet fart.
    I’m still waiting for literally a single person to offer an alternative

    We knew the strike wouldn’t impact the queues, but now I’ve dumped my healers and am happily maining PCT, if the devs ever decide they need feedback there is a mountain of it on the healer forums already

    We got people talking. There is little else we can do
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m still waiting for literally a single person to offer an alternative

    We knew the strike wouldn’t impact the queues, but now I’ve dumped my healers and am happily maining PCT, if the devs ever decide they need feedback there is a mountain of it on the healer forums already

    We got people talking. There is little else we can do
    Unsub? Stop playing the game? Make it count where its important for Square? They don't care about this post. But what they care is money. If they earn less money because people (healer mains) don't like how their classes play and leave the game, they will see it in their statistics. Their revenue.

    You people in for the "strike" still playing, even when it is other classes, does nothing. You are still paying them money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    Unsub? Stop playing the game? Make it count where its important for Square? They don't care about this post. But what they care is money. If they earn less money because people (healer mains) don't like how their classes play and leave the game, they will see it in their statistics. Their revenue.

    You people in for the "strike" still playing, even when it is other classes, does nothing. You are still paying them money.
    2 points

    1) a “feedback” system that amounts to “unsub or your feedback is deemed unnecessary or inconsequential” is a completely broken system and will benefit nobody in the long run

    2) if I unsub now they don’t ask for why I’m leaving the game, how do they know it’s because I’m sick of healers, they don’t track me his a healer main and who isn’t, if I unsub now they could easily pass it off as “oh they didn’t like the DT story” or “guess they are taking a break”. Unsubbing only works to give feedback if they actually ask for feedback when you unsub. In the 14 years I’ve played this game I’ve only been actively subbed for 6 years or so of it, if they look at my internal data they will just assume I’m on a break
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    Unsub? Stop playing the game? Make it count where its important for Square? They don't care about this post. But what they care is money. If they earn less money because people (healer mains) don't like how their classes play and leave the game, they will see it in their statistics. Their revenue.

    You people in for the "strike" still playing, even when it is other classes, does nothing. You are still paying them money.
    Untrue. Its been shown SE does listen to forum feedback(i mean, feedback suggestions literally redirect you to the forums).

    Theyve rolled back certain class changes, and have even implemented buffs over feedback threads less expansive than this.

    So no, their only concern is not exclusively money, because if it was we as subbers would never have gotten the plethora of qol updates as we have been asking for over the years.

    Such as but not limited to, as its atlesst a big one for me, flying in arr zones. And they absolutely did not need to give it to us, its something the playerbase actively voiced and asked for lmao.

    So, shockingly contrary to your argument, talking about stuff , including contributing with uninformed posts like this does infact help a ton! 616 pages going strong
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    Last edited by GoodPerson; 07-03-2024 at 04:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
    I'm not against changes. I do think healers should have more interesting dps kits etc.

    I'm not against playing healer. I play all three roles casually depending on my whims and what my friends need for roulettes on a given day.

    And I'm not against strikes. You know, real strikes. Like the recent writer/actor strikes. 100% behind those. People putting real effort into real causes that matter, for better working conditions and wages they deserve.

    I mock this 'strike' because it's silly. It's dumb. Because it's dramatic clickbait nonsense that might get a quick article or youtube video made during a content downtime, but is ultimately doomed to failure. Today is the day the strike was 'officially' supposed to start and I saw no difference in any of my roulette times as healer or tank. As expected the actual strike is turning out to be a wet fart.
    I would argue that the main purpose of the strike was to get people to talk about it. And judging by the fact that this thread is sitting at a comfy 615 pages and has youtube videos and such about it, I'd say it has done a pretty good job.

    In the end, it's just a video game, so it can't have the same impact as a real world strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
    I'm not against changes. I do think healers should have more interesting dps kits etc.

    I'm not against playing healer. I play all three roles casually depending on my whims and what my friends need for roulettes on a given day.

    And I'm not against strikes. You know, real strikes. Like the recent writer/actor strikes. 100% behind those. People putting real effort into real causes that matter, for better working conditions and wages they deserve.

    I mock this 'strike' because it's silly. It's dumb. Because it's dramatic clickbait nonsense that might get a quick article or youtube video made during a content downtime, but is ultimately doomed to failure. Today is the day the strike was 'officially' supposed to start and I saw no difference in any of my roulette times as healer or tank. As expected the actual strike is turning out to be a wet fart.
    I get you think it’s silly, but that seems because you are comparing it to something you feel is worthy. But is my enjoyment not worthy? We all play this game to have fun, it’s the point of a video game, but if I’m not having fun on the role I loved, can we try to do something about it? I just think in this case if you don’t like the strike because it’s silly and dumb, then you can easily ignore it. It won’t affect you, as many are determined to remind us the strike isn’t effective.

    Again I implore non healers to give healing a try. Maybe you’ll find you really enjoy it, or maybe you will finally understand what we are saying for 6 years.
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