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  1. #5931
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    Naouu's Avatar
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    Mamaki Maki
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    What I'm gathering from this thread from anyone who does more than casual content:

    -Skill expression is too limited, and needs to be improved upon for healers. I think I can agree with this- add back cleric stance and a few gcd for a dmg combo. I think this would be a good start.

    As for the rest of the complaints:

    I don't agree with imposing changes on other jobs if you don't dedicatedly play them. It's giving Karen energy.
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  2. #5932
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    TheRealQuah's Avatar
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    Q'hahtoa Quah
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    If you want more involved damage rotations then just play dps.
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  3. #5933
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    If you want more involved damage rotations then just play dps.
    I believe thats the entire plan. (in case you missed that along the way, it does tend to be a bit of reading)
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  4. #5934
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    If you want more involved damage rotations then just play dps.
    Not for very much longer if they keep trimming them down every damned expansion.
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  5. #5935
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    Celes Miret-njer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naouu View Post
    What I'm gathering from this thread from anyone who does more than casual content:

    -Skill expression is too limited, and needs to be improved upon for healers. I think I can agree with this- add back cleric stance and a few gcd for a dmg combo. I think this would be a good start.
    I said it earlier, we have all of Eureka and Bozja as testing grounds for new abilities - give us Seraph Strike instead of Glide!



    I don't agree with imposing changes on other jobs if you don't dedicatedly play them. It's giving Karen energy.
    There is no reason for any DPS or tank to offer AoE healing. There is no reason for tanks to be able to heal others, at all, without a significant cost to their own survivability. I say this as someone who routinely plays as a Paladin: Clemency needs more downsides to casting, and Holy Sheltron's Knight's Benediction should only apply to the caster, not the recipient (same for WAR's Nascent Flash's Nascent Glint, GNB's Heart of Corundum's additional affect of Brutal Shell). I'm fine with them applying to themselves for self-sustain, but healing the party should be the healer's job, first and foremost.

    I'm even leery of RDM and SMN having access to a targeted heal spell and a raise, even if it makes sense lore-wise.
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  6. #5936
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    Naouu's Avatar
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    Mamaki Maki
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    Dark Knight Lv 72
    Tanks have more involved damage rotations. Why can't healers? Giving cleric stance and giving even just a 123 combo can let the ones who have mastered their class show it.

    A newbie healer might not use cleric stance and focus on learning when and where to heal and use their ogcds/mits

    Where as an expert would know exactly when to turn on cleric stance and sacrifice some of the unnecessary healing for a little more damage. They can cut some of the potency off skills to make it a little more balanced if need be.

    My only gripe with this tho is that it infact may likely cause some gatekeeping on unskilled healers trying to learn more difficult content.
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  7. #5937
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Not for very much longer if they keep trimming them down every damned expansion.
    *Cries in former summoner main*
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  8. #5938
    Player
    Naouu's Avatar
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    Mamaki Maki
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    I said it earlier, we have all of Eureka and Bozja as testing grounds for new abilities - give us Seraph Strike instead of Glide!





    There is no reason for any DPS or tank to offer AoE healing. There is no reason for tanks to be able to heal others, at all, without a significant cost to their own survivability. I say this as someone who routinely plays as a Paladin: Clemency needs more downsides to casting, and Holy Sheltron's Knight's Benediction should only apply to the caster, not the recipient (same for WAR's Nascent Flash's Nascent Glint, GNB's Heart of Corundum's additional affect of Brutal Shell). I'm fine with them applying to themselves for self-sustain, but healing the party should be the healer's job, first and foremost.

    I'm even leery of RDM and SMN having access to a targeted heal spell and a raise, even if it makes sense lore-wise.
    Well as a War main myself I rarely to almost never use Nascent flesh and many war mains i know hardly do either
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  9. #5939
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    Mamaki Maki
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    Sorry my comment got cut off somehow- was just saying if they took Nascent flesh off of me I wouldn't be that sad xD
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  10. #5940
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    Fudo Myoo
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I tried very hard not to reply this thread but ... lol

    Frankly, the best way to get their attention is "unsub". All healers main just "unsub", let them feel the pinch and they will wake up.
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