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    Player
    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
    World
    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Why make such polarizing design choices that trade your old audience for a new one when you can find a middle ground that lets you keep your old audience while attracting new members?
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    You can also look at PF and see that most groups are waiting for healers. At least, that’s the case on Aether.
    Same on Chaos. Yesterday night was especially barren in the green slots-
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Golem
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Same on Chaos. Yesterday night was especially barren in the green slots-
    Same on Malboro
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Yo healin friggin sucks dude
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    Cure Starlight
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    Raiden
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    From "Expert" Dungeons that need almost zero healer attention to Ex Trails the jump in difficulty feels higher than ever. It baffles me that there is yet to be a reasonable gradient.
    Coming from EW I expect this difficulty level is already the plateau for savages and ultimates.

    Back to "Expert" Dungeons: The responsibility for healers is at an atrocious low. If your healer dies at 50% boss hp they'll have to watch the painfully slow progress on the kill. A reason why I am thinking of just leaving the duty whenever that happens.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Phys ranged is the next role behind healer that just feels like it’s there for the sake of the baseline full party comp and not because it actually brings anything to the table so it doesn’t surprise me it’s the next least common role

    The phys ranged get taxed for uptime nobody except BLM and PCT are actually fighting for. BRD specifically is one of the most complex and rigid jobs in the game and all it has to show for it is being a worse DNC because feeding gear to a specific dance partner is worth more than BRD’s uniform buffs and MCH is getting taxed for its role while being a selfish DPS

    both healers and phys ranged suffer from near redundancy of their role in a conventional party
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Ragnarok
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Phys ranged is the next role behind healer that just feels like it’s there for the sake of the baseline full party comp and not because it actually brings anything to the table so it doesn’t surprise me it’s the next least common role

    The phys ranged get taxed for uptime nobody except BLM and PCT are actually fighting for. BRD specifically is one of the most complex and rigid jobs in the game and all it has to show for it is being a worse DNC because feeding gear to a specific dance partner is worth more than BRD’s uniform buffs and MCH is getting taxed for its role while being a selfish DPS

    both healers and phys ranged suffer from near redundancy of their role in a conventional party
    Phys ranged also feels the worse to play out of the dps, imho. BRD is the most engaging but has some very obtuse design choices (no charge on Apex for whatever reason, punishing on death...) and the other two are underpowered and, especially for DNC, kinda dull.
    But I don't want to derail the healer thread with dps woes, especially since any of those three is leagues ahead of any healer in terms of engagement.
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    Grainne Gothram
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    Phys ranged also feels the worse to play out of the dps, imho. BRD is the most engaging but has some very obtuse design choices (no charge on Apex for whatever reason, punishing on death...) and the other two are underpowered and, especially for DNC, kinda dull.
    But I don't want to derail the healer thread with dps woes, especially since any of those three is leagues ahead of any healer in terms of engagement.
    level 96 dancer trait/ability is the single most "you missed why people enjoy this job" moment ever. Literally just removing the dance inputs for no reason, its not even stronger than standard finish lmao.
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    Player Venarius's Avatar
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    Celeste Valeria
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I took a week long break from playing and healing only to return yesterday because a friends PF wasn't filling in 40 minutes. Friday evening, prime time. So I went and we did a couple clears. I felt awful afterwards and thought what the fuck am I even doing, this isn't fun.

    I think I just accepted that this game isn't for me anymore and am ready to move on for good.

    This thread and all your opinions made me reflect and encouraged my decision. If anything this Strike freed one frustrated healer from the chains of mediocrity. It was a good run, best of luck to you all!
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    Gartred Runecaster
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    >be me
    >Expert dungeon as DPS
    >first boss
    >healer dies to the first mechanic
    >Me and Viper die shortly after to raidwides
    >warrior doesn't die.
    >stays alive for 8 minutes trying to solo boss from 90%
    >can't even check on his progress because we're outside the arena
    >I tell him it'd just be faster to wipe and try again with an actual party
    >ignored
    >he dies anyway
    >try again
    >Healer dies again to second mechanic
    >"sorry guys, I'm just out of it today. I'm going to bed"
    >healer leaves
    >I drop a stack marker on the tank in hopes that it combines with his tankbuster and kills him
    >"why"
    >"So you don't waste 8 minutes just to die again"
    >wait 10 more minutes
    >he actually clears.
    >gets all smug, "What was that about dying"
    >I'm already readying the vote kick
    >Viper clicks yes, thinking it was for the offline healer
    >Tank gets booted
    >Viper realizes mistake and leaves too
    >refill party
    >chad DRK who can survive the minimal healing our new Sage is outputting
    >at least Sage can stay alive
    >They ask if I got a Strike healer before.
    >"Nah, I'm the strike healer."
    >I tell the story in between pulls
    >Finish the dungeon in record time
    >triple-comm'd
    >feels good.

    I'd say the strike is going just fine. It's attracted a bunch of glue-sniffers who just play healer to see fast queues. This'll do wonders to convince the average person that healing is just completely broken, and they need to bring back old healing mains who know what they're doing.
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