#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Striker44]

Waited almost 30 minutes to get a healer for the final boss of DT.

Granted, it's still early but considering the other slots got filled instantly there's still a very obvious disparity in the role usage.

This is expected, though, because both of the new classes are DPS. Someone earlier dug up a thread from the SB-era (the last time 2 DPS classes were introduced) showing even several months into that xpac, the DPS queues were exceptionally long. I've been consistently finding in roulettes that tank queues are instant and healer queues have minimal time (< 15 seconds). I don't really do DF content on DPS, so no info on those queues.

You literally told us we need to show proof that healers are in a terrible place, you mean what we've been doing for 5 WHOLE YEARS

No, what you've (the collective "you" that has been posting, not necessarily "you" specifically) been doing for 5 years is giving your own opinion on why you personally find healing terrible for you. That's very different than proving that healers are actually in a terrible place from the perspective of the larger playerbase and game design. Some of those very same things that one person will claim makes healers "bad" is exactly what makes another person enjoy them (for example - people who want healers to have more dps abilities vs. people who want healers to focus considerably on healing and specifically don't want to be running dps rotations while playing a healer role).

[Myrany]

This is expected, though, because both of the new classes are DPS. Someone earlier dug up a thread from the SB-era (the last time 2 DPS classes were introduced) showing even several months into that xpac, the DPS queues were exceptionally long. I've been consistently finding in roulettes that tank queues are instant and healer queues have minimal time (< 15 seconds). I don't really do DF content on DPS, so no info on those queues.



No, what you've (the collective "you" that has been posting, not necessarily "you" specifically) been doing for 5 years is giving your own opinion on why you personally find healing terrible for you. That's very different than proving that healers are actually in a terrible place from the perspective of the larger playerbase and game design. Some of those very same things that one person will claim makes healers "bad" is exactly what makes another person enjoy them (for example - people who want healers to have more dps abilities vs. people who want healers to focus considerably on healing and specifically don't want to be running dps rotations while playing a healer role).

my low level DPS queues (mid 40s) have been about 20 minutes today on Dynamis. Which really is not as bad as I had expected but still painful to some people. I haven't even tried to play on Crystal where my main is.

[Supersnow845]

This is expected, though, because both of the new classes are DPS. Someone earlier dug up a thread from the SB-era (the last time 2 DPS classes were introduced) showing even several months into that xpac, the DPS queues were exceptionally long. I've been consistently finding in roulettes that tank queues are instant and healer queues have minimal time (< 15 seconds). I don't really do DF content on DPS, so no info on those queues.



No, what you've (the collective "you" that has been posting, not necessarily "you" specifically) been doing for 5 years is giving your own opinion on why you personally find healing terrible for you. That's very different than proving that healers are actually in a terrible place from the perspective of the larger playerbase and game design. Some of those very same things that one person will claim makes healers "bad" is exactly what makes another person enjoy them (for example - people who want healers to have more dps abilities vs. people who want healers to focus considerably on healing and specifically don't want to be running dps rotations while playing a healer role).

Okay here is something for you to ponder

Lucky brancho’s mega SB survey showed that the number of accounts tallied during his SB surveys showed that there was
-1.2 million DPS
-550k healers
-400k tanks
(Of course there is overlap and not everyone was active at the same time)

His mega EW survey showed this
-3.7 million DPS
-1.7 million tanks
-1.2 million healers

Lucky is the best survey data we have, so according to this they streamlined both the tanks and the healers and it led to the healers getting relatively less popular and falling behind the tanks that still enjoy all the benefits of square thinking they are the rarer role like tank achievements and default AIN status

We personally have zero evidence that people actually like the modern healers, we don’t have a massive amount of data that they do like them but we certainly have more evidence that people don’t like them. Healer wasn’t always the rarest role

[HighlanderClone]

This is expected, though, because both of the new classes are DPS. Someone earlier dug up a thread from the SB-era (the last time 2 DPS classes were introduced) showing even several months into that xpac, the DPS queues were exceptionally long. I've been consistently finding in roulettes that tank queues are instant and healer queues have minimal time (< 15 seconds). I don't really do DF content on DPS, so no info on those queues.



No, what you've (the collective "you" that has been posting, not necessarily "you" specifically) been doing for 5 years is giving your own opinion on why you personally find healing terrible for you. That's very different than proving that healers are actually in a terrible place from the perspective of the larger playerbase and game design. Some of those very same things that one person will claim makes healers "bad" is exactly what makes another person enjoy them (for example - people who want healers to have more dps abilities vs. people who want healers to focus considerably on healing and specifically don't want to be running dps rotations while playing a healer role).

Tank queues are 10 mins long lmao, and we don't have a new tank.