#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[MoonmoonMoonmoon]

I am sorry, I do not know you and I might be misreading it, but this sounds like a "guilt-trip" towards healers... We are all paying and playing to have fun, right? I already have my real-life job to do what I am supposed to do whether I enjoy it or not, so thanks, but no thanks - I prefer having fun, I can group up with friends/FC instead of waiting for randoms

Thank you for asking me to clarify instead of just assuming! So that was intended to be lightly sarcastic... There is nothing enjoyable about having to wait to play the game the way you want to play it. There is nothing enjoyable about playing a job you don't like.

If you're not enjoying the game, by all means change jobs! Just know that this void you're leaving behind is one of the most sought-after jobs in the game. Everyone needs a healer to queue. There just aren't any competent healers left in the game anymore. If you have a way to queue without reaching out to a random healer through DF then good for you, but others joining this cause might not have that support. So I mean, it's literally a "pick your poison" situation for them. Play a job you don't like or have to sit in queue with 172,634 other DPS (IDK I made up that number) who also changed jobs.

[Xurtan]

Thank you for asking me to clarify instead of just assuming! So that was intended to be lightly sarcastic... There is nothing enjoyable about having to wait to play the game the way you want to play it. There is nothing enjoyable about playing a job you don't like.

If you're not enjoying the game, by all means change jobs! Just know that this void you're leaving behind is one of the most sought-after jobs in the game. Everyone needs a healer to queue. There just aren't any competent healers left in the game anymore. If you have a way to queue without reaching out to a random healer through DF then good for you, but others joining this cause might not have that support. So I mean, it's literally a "pick your poison" situation for them. Play a job you don't like or have to sit in queue with 172,634 other DPS (IDK I made up that number) who also changed jobs.

At least there's enough side content I enjoy playing that I can do during periods I'm waiting on the queues, whereas fast queues only matter if I like doing the content - and that's questionable with current healer designs. Like the old adage, 'no D&D is better than bad D&D', the same is true here.

[MoonmoonMoonmoon]

At least there's enough side content I enjoy playing that I can do during periods I'm waiting on the queues, whereas fast queues only matter if I like doing the content - and that's questionable with current healer designs. Like the old adage, 'no D&D is better than bad D&D', the same is true here.

Might be a good time to catch up on all those side quests you never completed from previous expansions, eh?

[Xurtan]

Might be a good time to catch up on all those side quests you never completed from previous expansions, eh?

Honestly yeah, I kinda want to do every quest and I reaaaally need to grind a bunch of FATEs, various crafting and other nonsense on my list. Enough to keep me occupied to 8.0 at least, and I'm hopeful we see something then if not sooner. Maybe that hope isn't realistic, but I'd rather be hopeful than not, y'know?

[Isala]

Might be a good time to catch up on all those side quests you never completed from previous expansions, eh?

The only quests like that for me, are Blahsja and Zadsnore, and that one fishing quest from ARR. And I would rather play healer than do those absolute tragedies of game design. Cause I really don't care about getting ugly relics, and the person who designed that fishing quest, and fishing in general, needs a shot to the junk. Maybe they're the one designing healers, come to think of it.

[MoonmoonMoonmoon]

I'm going to go read the patch notes now... I'll be back later if anyone replies to me. I really want to have a good faith conversation to understand what is going on and why... and we're getting there, but I really need to read the patch notes before I forget AGAIN!! >_<


It seems I have reached my post limit. How incredibly dull.

[ToodlesElNoodles]

I'm going to go read the patch notes now... I'll be back later if anyone replies to me. I really want to have a good faith conversation to understand what is going on and why... and we're getting there, but I really need to read the patch notes before I forget AGAIN!! >_<

I’m glad you want to have a good faith conversation. But just so ya know, it’s hard to have a good faith conversation when players who have been maining healer for a long time are trying again to improve the situation, and someone comes in (who also doesn’t main healer) patronizing their experiences and emotions. (Such as saying: you just need to change jobs, do something different!).

Give people credit here that they actually are coming from experiences/emotions that have merit.They know how they’re feeling. Get to understand that. Edit: And trust me, the Healer forums and even r/ffxivdiscussion has spent a lot of time discussing these things. If you think you have a solution, you probably don’t because someone has already thought it up. Do some research instead.

I used to think back in ShB that the healer complaints were overblown. Especially since I mained Healer in WoW. After actually playing Extremes/Savages in EW, then hopping back into Roulette content…I found myself zoning out, looking at my phone, or even falling asleep in Deep Dungeons and other stuff because FF14 content is NOT challenging and Healers are just plain boring when the content refuses to allow them to do their roles as healers.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Thank you for asking me to clarify instead of just assuming! So that was intended to be lightly sarcastic... There is nothing enjoyable about having to wait to play the game the way you want to play it. There is nothing enjoyable about playing a job you don't like.

If you're not enjoying the game, by all means change jobs! Just know that this void you're leaving behind is one of the most sought-after jobs in the game. Everyone needs a healer to queue. There just aren't any competent healers left in the game anymore. If you have a way to queue without reaching out to a random healer through DF then good for you, but others joining this cause might not have that support. So I mean, it's literally a "pick your poison" situation for them. Play a job you don't like or have to sit in queue with 172,634 other DPS (IDK I made up that number) who also changed jobs.

I was definitely one of those who assumed the worse right off the bat, apologies for that. But then why would you add this to your first post?

[...]Play the game, or don't, but stop acting like you are actually going to make a change this way[...]

Truly, I did interpret that as gatekeeping feedbacks for no good reason.

[Kozmakis]

If you're not enjoying the game, by all means change jobs! Just know that this void you're leaving behind is one of the most sought-after jobs in the game. Everyone needs a healer to queue. There just aren't any competent healers left in the game anymore. If you have a way to queue without reaching out to a random healer through DF then good for you, but others joining this cause might not have that support. So I mean, it's literally a "pick your poison" situation for them. Play a job you don't like or have to sit in queue with 172,634 other DPS (IDK I made up that number) who also changed jobs.

Thanks for the clarification! I will also add a little bit about my personal interest in this (I joined the forums because of it, lol) - I have been a healer main for the past ±15 years in multiple MMOs. My play style is simple: smashing healing buttons, especially HoTs, but I digress! I do not want to name other games as I am not sure whether talking about them is okay on these forums. What I liked about FFXIV is the lack of pressure to have to login every day for many hours and do content I dislike just to farm gear, which will let me do something I enjoy afterwards. I knew healers work differently in FFXIV, compared to other MMOs - you are required to do damage and healing is either reactive or somewhat proactive/pre-shielding or pre-casting mitigation spells for certain mechanics.

So I tried Sage in EW, after losing interest in White Mage - what was supposed to be a "green DPS" - and I was surprised to see that I have a worse DPS rotation than in other MMOs, where damage-dealing is optional, unless you are the 1% of the population running the hardest content in the game. I can give you an example from such game in a DM (again, not sure if I can talk about other games freely here) with a 8-9 spell rotation, which include multiple DoTs, using mana as a resource, then shapeshifting (which also changes your 1st hotbar) to use spells with a different resource (not mana), half of which generate combo points and the other half consume the combo points as finishers... It's hard to even compare this to E.Dosis/E.Dyskrasia every 30 secs, Phlegma + Psyche in burst windows and Dosis/Dyskrasia spam... and healing is almost entirely oGCDs, i.e. click and forget, compared to casting HoTs (on GCD), then combo-ing other spells with them, again on GCD...

I still enjoy FFXIV, I will just try being a pure DPS (or maybe tank) for now, otherwise I feel I am misusing the small amount of time I have to play the game doing something I don't enjoy. If my choice increases queue time - it's the developer's problem. FFXIV made it easy for everyone to switch jobs, so others can step in, as you have also graciously offered, so the void will eventually be filled by other players, no need to panic