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  1. #5351
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    MoonmoonMoonmoon's Avatar
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    Cetiri Mjeseca
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    Our queue time as DPS/Tank will be the same as already non healer players and we all know it. So I don't get the point.

    Or, maybe you want to force us playing a job we don't enjoy anymore for the sole reason we start the game with that role ? Are taking us for your slaves or something ?

    If you're afraid you can't be patient enough for the queue times, you're free to switch to healer.
    Please point out in my own words where I said that.
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  2. #5352
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    Our queue time as DPS/Tank will be the same as already non healer players and we all know it. So I don't get the point.

    Or, maybe you want to force us playing a job we don't enjoy anymore for the sole reason we start the game with that role ? Are taking us for your slaves or something ?

    If you're afraid you can't be patient enough for the queue times, you're free to switch to healer.
    I mean, they keep saying that they design healers to attract players who normally don't play healers. Maybe it's time for these mythical players to step up and play healers now. Surely they exist, right?
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  3. #5353
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    MoonmoonMoonmoon's Avatar
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    Cetiri Mjeseca
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    I think every healer in the strike is fully aware of that, they just don't care.
    And if one of the dps/tank mains is switching to healer for faster queues then maybe they too will notice how awful the design of the role currently is.
    Therein lies the rub. I don't think healer is poorly designed. I mained healer last expac because people quit playing healer and had a great time. I think the fights are poorly designed that the healer toolkit can be replaced by other jobs that have a capability for group heals. Also WAR nerf when? WAR heals are insane and they should stop. That's MY protest
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  4. #5354
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    Cetiri Mjeseca
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    Our queue time as DPS/Tank will be the same as already non healer players and we all know it. So I don't get the point.

    Or, maybe you want to force us playing a job we don't enjoy anymore for the sole reason we start the game with that role ? Are taking us for your slaves or something ?

    If you're afraid you can't be patient enough for the queue times, you're free to switch to healer.
    I played WoW as a dps. You don't know what a queue time is.
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  5. #5355
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I would love nothing more than for current healer design to be connected with the people that enjoy wearing down the 1 key and will also step up to heal when required.

    I simply don't think they exist.
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  6. #5356
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    AlexaAura's Avatar
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    Aster Regulus
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 100
    It hurts to say but it feels like the job design team is just plain incompetent at this point. And I really wish I didn't feel that way...but how can you remove Sage's Two dots and make it so they can't overlap...Why would you ever do that? You sell it as "The DPS Healer" but then they make decisions like this. What are they doing over there, who is making these decisions.
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  7. #5357
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    Kozmakis's Avatar
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    Pencho Gipsa
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    Twintania
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    Play the one true healer, WAR
    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I went for Dancer because the proc-based rotation is scratching the itch of semi-randomness I'm used from Astrologian. I'm having a blast and I'll be raiding as DNC in Dawntrail.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    DNC - easy and fun proc-based job with healing support
    BRD - dots
    RPR - easy to pick up and looks cool, some heal support
    VPR - a fun but more advanced playstyle, no healing support
    RDM - heal and raise support with good mobility
    WAR - easy all-rounder
    Thank you for the suggestions, looks like Dancer is the way forward and Warrior is "backup" option if I want to try tanking.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    I just hope you're all prepared to go from not enjoying the game because you don't like how a job is designed - to not enjoying the game because you literally can't play it while you wait for someone else to play that job you don't like.
    I am sorry, I do not know you and I might be misreading it, but this sounds like a "guilt-trip" towards healers... We are all paying and playing to have fun, right? I already have my real-life job to do what I am supposed to do whether I enjoy it or not, so thanks, but no thanks - I prefer having fun, I can group up with friends/FC instead of waiting for randoms
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  8. #5358
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    WaxSw's Avatar
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    Waxillium Larede
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    I played WoW as a dps. You don't know what a queue time is.
    I'd rather have queues of hours for a single duty that I get to enjoy rather than spending the entirety of an expansion with a gameplay that boils down to:

    -If there is damage to be healed press the generic oGCD that is flat potency and doesn't have any other interesting effect
    -If there is no damage to be healed press a 2 button rotation

    Healers on this game are a textbook example of how not to do game design
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

  9. #5359
    Player
    MoonmoonMoonmoon's Avatar
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    Cetiri Mjeseca
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kozmakis View Post
    I am sorry, I do not know you and I might be misreading it, but this sounds like a "guilt-trip" towards healers... We are all paying and playing to have fun, right? I already have my real-life job to do what I am supposed to do whether I enjoy it or not, so thanks, but no thanks - I prefer having fun, I can group up with friends/FC instead of waiting for randoms
    Thank you for asking me to clarify instead of just assuming! So that was intended to be lightly sarcastic... There is nothing enjoyable about having to wait to play the game the way you want to play it. There is nothing enjoyable about playing a job you don't like.

    If you're not enjoying the game, by all means change jobs! Just know that this void you're leaving behind is one of the most sought-after jobs in the game. Everyone needs a healer to queue. There just aren't any competent healers left in the game anymore. If you have a way to queue without reaching out to a random healer through DF then good for you, but others joining this cause might not have that support. So I mean, it's literally a "pick your poison" situation for them. Play a job you don't like or have to sit in queue with 172,634 other DPS (IDK I made up that number) who also changed jobs.
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  10. #5360
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    Aidorouge's Avatar
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Maduin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    I played WoW as a dps. You don't know what a queue time is.
    And I'll be playing DPS on Maduin, after Viper and Pictomancer drop, during a healer strike.

    You don't know nothin' about queue times, lol.
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