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  1. #5361
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    Xurtan's Avatar
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    Mikh'ir Bajhiri
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    Thank you for asking me to clarify instead of just assuming! So that was intended to be lightly sarcastic... There is nothing enjoyable about having to wait to play the game the way you want to play it. There is nothing enjoyable about playing a job you don't like.

    If you're not enjoying the game, by all means change jobs! Just know that this void you're leaving behind is one of the most sought-after jobs in the game. Everyone needs a healer to queue. There just aren't any competent healers left in the game anymore. If you have a way to queue without reaching out to a random healer through DF then good for you, but others joining this cause might not have that support. So I mean, it's literally a "pick your poison" situation for them. Play a job you don't like or have to sit in queue with 172,634 other DPS (IDK I made up that number) who also changed jobs.
    At least there's enough side content I enjoy playing that I can do during periods I'm waiting on the queues, whereas fast queues only matter if I like doing the content - and that's questionable with current healer designs. Like the old adage, 'no D&D is better than bad D&D', the same is true here.
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    #healerstrike

  2. #5362
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    Cetiri Mjeseca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xurtan View Post
    At least there's enough side content I enjoy playing that I can do during periods I'm waiting on the queues, whereas fast queues only matter if I like doing the content - and that's questionable with current healer designs. Like the old adage, 'no D&D is better than bad D&D', the same is true here.
    Might be a good time to catch up on all those side quests you never completed from previous expansions, eh?
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  3. #5363
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    I'm going to go read the patch notes now... I'll be back later if anyone replies to me. I really want to have a good faith conversation to understand what is going on and why... and we're getting there, but I really need to read the patch notes before I forget AGAIN!! >_<


    It seems I have reached my post limit. How incredibly dull.
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    Last edited by MoonmoonMoonmoon; 06-28-2024 at 01:53 AM. Reason: meh

  4. #5364
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    And I'll be playing DPS on Maduin, after Viper and Pictomancer drop, during a healer strike.

    You don't know nothin' about queue times, lol.
    Queue times? Man, I remember sitting in hubs asking for healers and tanks in say or global chat, because there were no queues. There were some days you didn't even get to play. This healer strike is gonna be nothing in comparison to that. We have Trusts as the worst case scenario.
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  5. #5365
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    Thank you for asking me to clarify instead of just assuming! So that was intended to be lightly sarcastic... There is nothing enjoyable about having to wait to play the game the way you want to play it. There is nothing enjoyable about playing a job you don't like.

    If you're not enjoying the game, by all means change jobs! Just know that this void you're leaving behind is one of the most sought-after jobs in the game. Everyone needs a healer to queue. There just aren't any competent healers left in the game anymore. If you have a way to queue without reaching out to a random healer through DF then good for you, but others joining this cause might not have that support. So I mean, it's literally a "pick your poison" situation for them. Play a job you don't like or have to sit in queue with 172,634 other DPS (IDK I made up that number) who also changed jobs.
    I was definitely one of those who assumed the worse right off the bat, apologies for that. But then why would you add this to your first post?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    [...]Play the game, or don't, but stop acting like you are actually going to make a change this way[...]
    Truly, I did interpret that as gatekeeping feedbacks for no good reason.
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  6. #5366
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    Xurtan's Avatar
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    Mikh'ir Bajhiri
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    Might be a good time to catch up on all those side quests you never completed from previous expansions, eh?
    Honestly yeah, I kinda want to do every quest and I reaaaally need to grind a bunch of FATEs, various crafting and other nonsense on my list. Enough to keep me occupied to 8.0 at least, and I'm hopeful we see something then if not sooner. Maybe that hope isn't realistic, but I'd rather be hopeful than not, y'know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    I agree, but there is a certain level of decision making that has to be done. Do I:

    1. play a job I don't care for just so I can play the game
    2. spend my precious gaming time waiting for 15 minutes of fun.

    IDK about the rest of you, but 15 minutes of fun per hour is not worth it to me. My plan was to main DPS this expac for my own reasons. I will switch to a different job if it means I actually get to play the game. I just really hope it doesn't come to that.
    I've been playing a shit job and giving feedback to improve it for years, I've seen how my main get destroyed, dumbed down and become irrelevant for years, 15m of wait compared to that is nothing for me, and honestly if is such a big problem to you (which is understandable) you only have Square Enix's designers to blame.

    The devs are the ones that caused this issue by letting clear problems fester for so long, they are the ones that neglected the role and allowed it to become what is today. If there is a healer shortage to the point no one can play comfortably, they are the ones at fault not us. With all due respect, I understand your worry, but I'm not gonna waste my sub and time in one of the worst designed roles of the industry just so others can enjoy theirs
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

  8. #5368
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    Might be a good time to catch up on all those side quests you never completed from previous expansions, eh?
    The only quests like that for me, are Blahsja and Zadsnore, and that one fishing quest from ARR. And I would rather play healer than do those absolute tragedies of game design. Cause I really don't care about getting ugly relics, and the person who designed that fishing quest, and fishing in general, needs a shot to the junk. Maybe they're the one designing healers, come to think of it.
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  9. #5369
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonmoonMoonmoon View Post
    I agree, but there is a certain level of decision making that has to be done. Do I:

    1. play a job I don't care for just so I can play the game
    2. spend my precious gaming time waiting for 15 minutes of fun.

    IDK about the rest of you, but 15 minutes of fun per hour is not worth it to me. My plan was to main DPS this expac for my own reasons. I will switch to a different job if it means I actually get to play the game. I just really hope it doesn't come to that.
    I imagine the biggest hurt about long queue times (assuming something pops at all) is that it's going to slow down most people's leveling, as roulettes is where the bulk of our EXP comes from. But there's still other methods, and people here will probably be better off than I am because most of you were already at the end of Endwalker waiting to waltz into Dawntrail and all the 90-100 content it offers, solo included. Whereas I in my insanity, got every combat job to 90 and I haven't even finished all of Heavenward yet. Of course, I also played a *lot* of PVP, where even if you don't heal (and you really don't need to) all of the healers (especially SCH & AST) can still wreck folks.

    So for those who still want to level healer while staying true to the strike, Frontlines does give a very generous amount of EXP with its own roulette, and maybe dunking on some tanks might be oddly satisfying. Just putting it out there...
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  10. #5370
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    Latrea Unknown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    Are we playing the same game? In what way tanks are too squishy?

    Also if you want an example of a truly squishy tank, try BLU Tank, base caster HP, while also at the same time missing the whole weapon worth of VIT. And while they do have 20% max HP upkeep buff, it's still calculated from that same caster HP minus weapon worth of VIT.
    You're misunderstanding the statement made. Nowhere did I say "I believe that Tanks are too Squishy." I said "I believe more people view that tanks are too squishy." Hence Square listening to that feedback and beefing up Tanks Damage Migitation, which is the exact opposite of what was asked in this thread. The purpose of the statement wasn't to point to my personal belief on particular matter on Tanks damage migitation, but my belief on why Square went the direction that they did in Dawntrail.
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