#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Amity_Roji]

I love how the argument is now becoming "but if you don't play a role you're dissatisfied with it ruins everyone else's game!"

Why should we play a role we're dissatisfied with?

That's the essence of this "strike." People are making this out to be us wanting to intentionally hurt the community. This isn't true. We're just collectively refusing to settle for a boring, mediocre job when it could be so much better, and are hoping (probably against hope to be honest) that the attention this movement gets will make devs think more about getting us back into a legitimate healing role.

We actively want to play healers. The problem is that that's not what we've been doing for years now. We're playing DPS roles (with both the lowest DPS and the most boring "rotations") that also have massive healing ability that just flat-out isn't being used. This is verifiable across all levels of content and the receipts have been posted throughout this thread. And we don't like it, so we're not going to do it anymore.

It is Square Enix that's "hurting" the game - and by extension, you - by making the healing role not revolve around healing. Not us.

I cannot for the life of me understand how any of you can justify the current healer situation. If healers are not meant to focus on healing, then why have healing jobs at all?

I get that you non-healer-mains are upset that this is getting attention, and that Square Enix's design philosophy towards healers has pushed us to the point of taking an action that can have negative repercussions for you. But you do not get to decide for us. We are not your monkeys, and the fact that healers are subject to this sort of attitude in the first place shows how devalued the healer role has become in this game.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

It was a members of a regular static that knew each other. A group of hardcore players who knew what they were doing went in and had some fun because they could.

Please watch the footage, this guy adds Nascent Flash to his hotbar manually mid-fight. One guy hits two vuln stacks before finally dying after missing a third mech on the last boss. Standing in bad if you will. In the first boss the Ninja face tanks a mechanic and faces no punishment (no they didn't even use the NIN personal shield).

If this is top end gameplay then I'm basically an Ultimate raider myself.

[KitiaraIornsight]

Please watch the footage, this guy adds Nascent Flash to his hotbar manually mid-fight. One guy hits two vuln stacks before finally dying after missing a third mech on the last boss. Standing in bad if you will. In the first boss the Ninja face tanks a mechanic and faces no punishment (no they didn't even use the NIN personal shield).

If this is top end gameplay then I'm basically an Ultimate raider myself.

I watched it... And everyone is conviently glossing over that there was a Red Mage, who's dual casting vercure potency has ALWAYS been op since it released. And they were playing MONTHS OLD test build.... NOTHING in that dungeon potency wise may be that way come launch, its likely those dungeon mobs could be adjusted and hit harder.
While I agree that healer kits need adjustment for more dps, this weeping and gnashing of teeth is going to accomplish nothing. Why? There are far more ALL AROUNDERS who play EVERYTHING and have 3 main jobs that will happily step up and fill in any "striking" healer. Not to mention enough people will be competent enough to pick up healer jobs and learn them, coupled with the Trust system, sorry guys your healer strike will DO NOTHING. Once you leave out of this forum and go into other areas where FFXIV is discussed INCLUDING IN GAME, the vast majority of healers are not going to strike at all.

[Ryojahn]

I watched it... And everyone is conviently glossing over that there was a Red Mage, who's dual casting vercure potency has ALWAYS been op since it released. And they were playing MONTHS OLD test build.... NOTHING in that dungeon potency wise may be that way come launch, its likely those dungeon mobs could be adjusted and hit harder.
While I agree that healer kits need adjustment for more dps, this weeping and gnashing of teeth is going to accomplish nothing. Why? There are far more ALL AROUNDERS who play EVERYTHING and have 3 main jobs that will happily step up and fill in any "striking" healer. Not to mention enough people will be competent enough to pick up healer jobs and learn them, coupled with the Trust system, sorry guys your healer strike will DO NOTHING. Once you leave out of this forum and go into other areas where FFXIV is discussed INCLUDING IN GAME, the vast majority of healers are not going to strike at all.

What I truly don't understand is people being so insistent on telling these healers that what they are trying won't achieve anything. It's honestly comical. Why? Why do you feel the need to come in here and say this? How does a small portion of healers qutting playing affect you? It probably doesn't right so why bother to bother them? They have been ignored for YEARS and they've had enough, let them try something new, see if it works. If it does great! If it doesn't? Well at least they tried something and it'll be clear the devs don't care because there's no way they haven't heard about it. Just leave these people be.

[KitiaraIornsight]

What I truly don't understand is people being so insistent on telling these healers that what they are trying won't achieve anything. It's honestly comical. Why? Why do you feel the need to come in here and say this? How does a small portion of healers qutting playing affect you? It probably doesn't right so why bother to bother them? They have been ignored for YEARS and they've had enough, let them try something new, see if it works. If it does great! If it doesn't? Well at least they ttried something and it'll be clear the devs don't care because there's no way they haven't heard aabout it. Just leave these people be.

maybe because there are multiple posts on this forum overcrowding other things people want to discuss in the excitement of the new expansion. I mean they are railing before the game even drops based on a MONTHS OLD TEST BUILD DUNGEON. Things very well could be changed and there will be withing a couple weeks the .01 patch which almost ALWAYS brings massive adjustments to skills and potencies for balancing sake.

[Supersnow845]

maybe because there are multiple posts on this forum overcrowding other things people want to discuss in the excitement of the new expansion. I mean they are railing before the game even drops based on a MONTHS OLD TEST BUILD DUNGEON. Things very well could be changed and there will be withing a couple weeks the .01 patch which almost ALWAYS brings massive adjustments to skills and potencies for balancing sake.

If you want to discuss something else then maybe make a post about it, that I don’t want to support wuk lamat thread is regularly pushed to the top

You ever consider this is being pushed to the top in many threads because people actually want to discuss

It’s flooding reddit, twitter and Facebook as well, people want to talk about this regardless of stance

[TheDustyOne]

maybe because there are multiple posts on this forum overcrowding other things people want to discuss in the excitement of the new expansion. I mean they are railing before the game even drops based on a MONTHS OLD TEST BUILD DUNGEON. Things very well could be changed and there will be withing a couple weeks the .01 patch which almost ALWAYS brings massive adjustments to skills and potencies for balancing sake.

I've heard this excuse for a few expansions now, I'm not being fooled again. The run was merely proof that Square isn't budging from the designs they've been working with for the past 5 years and we can expect yet another expansion where healers are just tag-alongs in a dungeon that can be replaced for a faster run.

Just wait for the next expansion, they promised more healing: Expansion comes and it turns out that I don't need to heal more, in fact I heal less.
Just wait for the balance patch: Balance patch comes and all I get back is Energy Drain.
Just wait for the next patch: Next patch comes and nothing has changed, maybe I need to cast an Esuna once a dungeon run.
Repeat for 2 expansions, we're now in the "Just wait for the next expansion" phase again.

[Ryojahn]

maybe because there are multiple posts on this forum overcrowding other things people want to discuss in the excitement of the new expansion. I mean they are railing before the game even drops based on a MONTHS OLD TEST BUILD DUNGEON. Things very well could be changed and there will be withing a couple weeks the .01 patch which almost ALWAYS brings massive adjustments to skills and potencies for balancing sake.

Again it is quite literally not just about DT it's about being ignored for years, and nothing in the media tour even comes close to detailing changes to any of the issues these people have raised for years. I don't understand how you can't grasp that, did you even read the opening post? Overcrowding? Don't make me laugh again, it's one thread, one teeny tiny row on the first page of the general discussion, it isn't preventing anyone from talking about anything. So again I ask, why are you trying to stop these people? You sound like it might actually do something and you seem worried about that.

[XiaoShengwu]

We actively want to play healers. The problem is that that's not what we've been doing for years now. We're playing DPS roles (with both the lowest DPS and the most boring "rotations") that also have massive healing ability that just flat-out isn't being used. This is verifiable across all levels of content and the receipts have been posted throughout this thread. And we don't like it, so we're not going to do it anymore.

It is Square Enix that's "hurting" the game - and by extension, you - by making the healing role not revolve around healing.