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  1. #3411
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CVXIV View Post
    You're not doing the movement any favors by attacking people.
    You're not doing anyone favors by solo playing bosses. You are in fact wasting everyone's time. Players who fail mechanics don't deserve to lie on the floor and not get a chance to learn the fight. They don't learn their own job by watching you finish the fight either. Moreover killing a boss "near death" is not special. I can do that on a BLM, and I have. Most jobs can under certain conditions or very low time limits. The problem with WAR is it is designed to solo down group content far beyond "near death". If anything I hope you get reported next time you do this (if you're doing it anywhere beyond a few % hp).

    Yoshi P really needs to get this tank messiah complex under control. You said, and I quote "I had to solo the boss". You actually don't. You didn't have to do anything.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-19-2024 at 01:05 AM.

  2. #3412
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    Cyrus Vincere
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    Malboro
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    You're not doing anyone favors by solo playing bosses. You are in fact wasting everyone's time. Players who fail mechanics don't deserve to lie on the floor and not get a chance to learn the fight. They don't learn their own job by watching you finish the fight either. Moreover killing a boss "near death" is not special. I can do that on a BLM, and I have. Most jobs can under certain conditions or very low time limits. The problem with WAR is it is designed to solo down group content far beyond "near death". If anything I hope you get reported next time you do this (if you're doing it anywhere beyond a few % hp).
    You're making some pretty far reaches to attack me. I never said I solo'd the boss from over half health, in fact I dislike when tanks do that very thing.

    I mean a few percentages remaining, where we would have to do the entire fight over.
    I've done it as paladin, so I used clemency and cover + hallowed ground on other people alive

    I agree warrior should be nerfed, I even mentioned it in my first post that the main issue seems to be about bloodwetting which I would like to see happening
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    Last edited by CVXIV; 06-19-2024 at 01:08 AM.

  3. #3413
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CVXIV View Post
    You're making some people far reaches to attack me. I never said I solo'd the boss from over half health, in fact I dislike when tanks do that very thing.

    I mean a few percentages remaining, where we would have to do the entire fight over.
    I've done it as paladin, so I used clemency and cover + hallowed ground on other people alive

    I agree warrior should be nerfed, I even mentioned it in my first post that the main issue seems to be about bloodwetting which I would like to see happening
    Fair enough, then it's not a criticism of you. My bad. That's why I added the disclaimer to be fair, because I find it suspicious when people ambiguously reference "near death" when we've had over 300 pages of this same subject and it often leads to people rationalizing pretty crazy health bars.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-19-2024 at 01:10 AM.

  4. #3414
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    Cyrus Vincere
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    Malboro
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Fair enough, then it's not a criticism of you. My bad.
    It's all good. I would've gone into more detail but I didn't want to seem like I was bragging about it because it really isn't special. I only pointed it out because I can see where healers come from when something like that happens because it really shouldn't. One time I was doing grand cosmos and the last boss killed everyone because some of the others burned the furniture so blue fire got us and the warrior refused to die despite the boss being well over half. It was pretty annoying and I'd never like to subject people to that.

    Should also state that people asked him to wipe and he refused lmao
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  5. #3415
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    If WAR mains are so upset about people asking for nerfs, then I have another idea.

    If only one person is left alive in a 4 man dungeon boss room, the boss should stop doing mechanics, gain a 300% damage up, gain haste and have maximum movement speed.

    There, no nerfs to WAR, have fun trying to solo.
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  6. #3416
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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Zodiark
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    Arcanist Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    If WAR mains are so upset about people asking for nerfs, then I have another idea.

    If only one person is left alive in a 4 man dungeon boss room, the boss should stop doing mechanics, gain a 300% damage up, gain haste and have maximum movement speed.

    There, no nerfs to WAR, have fun trying to solo.
    Expert dungeon bosses need that to be remotely threatening anyway, I don't see why a more fun fight should be limited to 3/4 of the party being on the floor
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  7. #3417
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    Rhel'a Tayuun
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    If WAR mains are so upset about people asking for nerfs, then I have another idea.

    If only one person is left alive in a 4 man dungeon boss room, the boss should stop doing mechanics, gain a 300% damage up, gain haste and have maximum movement speed.

    There, no nerfs to WAR, have fun trying to solo.
    It would be funny if a boss exploded for 999999999999 unavoidable, cannot invuln damage if the last person standing was a tank.
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    I love the men in this game

    I finally return to the game! Current goal: getting all my jobs to 90

  8. #3418
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    If WAR mains are so upset about people asking for nerfs, then I have another idea.

    If only one person is left alive in a 4 man dungeon boss room, the boss should stop doing mechanics, gain a 300% damage up, gain haste and have maximum movement speed.

    There, no nerfs to WAR, have fun trying to solo.
    Well let's be honest, there'll be an outrage since they can't smooth brain the boss.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

  9. #3419
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    Yasu Naoya
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    Malboro
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Gotta give credit to Zepla, she's already teaching quite early to sprout healers that they aren't needed if they die timestamp for those interested

    /s
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    Last edited by Rehayem; 06-19-2024 at 02:16 AM.

  10. #3420
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    Saito Soji
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    Coeurl
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post

    Modern dungeons and trials and raids are much harder than their ARR/HW counterparts. They ask more of the player do keep an eye on and do.
    because i know you weren't here back in ARR & HW (on content), i know you have never experienced a first room farm of Aurum Vale. Or a full run of it. what you are saying is nothing new to us. we, or at least a good handful of us, have been through all of these expansions at content. and, hate to break it to ya. but, no. what you're saying isn't true....at least historically speaking.

    ARR & HW Used to be, and to some degree still are depending on the group of players DF decides to jumble together. Some of the harder content in the game. There are mechanics in those dungeons and raids, that have been nerfd countless times (as well as had telegraphs added to them). A lot of those mechanics back in the day, were things you had to die to at least once, to learn about them even being a thing. (this can ideally be related to doom, which; outside of its initial introduction in temple, isn't widely used in the overworld and other dungeons.)

    Is the content past SHB more extensive in what it does? yes, i'll agree with you. But by no means is it more challenging.
    The difficulty you're speaking of here, isn't "difficulty" in the sense of being mechanically challenging. But difficulty in the sense of fast reaction and damage. both of which, are easily negated.
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