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    Kaixern's Avatar
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    Arkhon Dullgaroth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    Because they literally swarmed and attacked people who came in with different views or enjoy how the current healing role plays by calling them braindead among other things, these healers are not innocent in that and they literally cannot settle on what they want, the thread is full of bickering.

    Just putting it out there but respect is a two way street.
    That is the biggest issue in these sort of discussions

    Having two sides with differents opinions is not really that of a problem, with enough talk you can solve it/understand the other.
    The real issue is when you have this "third party" or any individual with the sole purpose being to throw off every hope of discussion from everyone here.
    (at least that's how i see it/feel)

    I know it's easier said than done, but keeping your cool (or at least trying your best) is the best thing you could do in this situation, from one side or the other.
    (if not that'll give just more power to people who want healers problems to disappear under the rug, again)
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    Last edited by Kaixern; 06-19-2024 at 11:44 PM.

  2. 06-19-2024 11:44 PM
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    Because they literally swarmed and attacked people who came in with different views or enjoy how the current healing role plays by calling them braindead among other things, these healers are not innocent in that and they literally cannot settle on what they want, the thread is full of bickering.

    Just putting it out there but respect is a two way street.
    That doesn’t really track. The argument should be dismissed as invalid because a select few were mean about it? And what about the people who have shown respect? Screw them, I guess?

    The thread being full of bickering is true of pretty much every internet forum thread in existence; it has no bearing on the argument the thread is making overall.

    I mean, I’ve seen many people on both sides being ‘bitchy’ to each other. So I guess neither argument can be valid. Respect is a two way street , right?
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    So when this topic slips into 2ch. will this start freaking out Mr.Yoshi?


    I kind of have a solution:

    Rework Jobs roles but no longer bound to Tank/DPS/Healer, and base all your skills & Gear into multiple directions:

    For instance for Paladin - He can setup his skills & Gear to be healer-based, defense-based or offensive based.

    and all jobs will have unique skill trees that offer different benefits in offensive, defensive, and healing abilities.


    But currently as this game is I really really doubt they would want to re-work ARR and everything else to make such a major change.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 06-19-2024 at 11:56 PM.

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    Sarevok Thordin
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    This was nothing compared to the great monk strike of GW1.
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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin View Post
    This was nothing compared to the great monk strike of GW1.
    It worked once it can work again!
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    If I speak at one constant volume
    At one constant pitch
    At one constant rhythm right into your ear
    You still won't hear
    #FFXIVHealerStrike

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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin View Post
    This was nothing compared to the great monk strike of GW1.
    Thunderhead Keep.

    Thousand yard stare
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    For Casual content, healer kits are way over bloated with healing abilities... Even with most Extreme trails, usually if you have to cast heals other than Medica 2, Aspected Helios, Succor or Adloquium something's generally wrong because you have so many options to heal, a good chunk of them being oGCD even.

    All damage from bosses is generally either completely negligible or completely avoidable, and if you don't avoid it, it usually is just an instant kill in harder content so heals won't save you there. But that's more of a fight design issue than a role issue...


    But for the buttons, there is the narrative that they don't want to add too many things to the class to avoid overwhelming beginners, but it already has too many things... And most of those things are just different heals, some more useless than others... Like as a WHM, I can use Plenary Indulgence to make my Medica overheal more, such a needed feature.
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    Sakura Ichijo
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    Omega
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    Bard Lv 100
    Try LotRO
    Even there you won't escape the DPS.
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