#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Kazmarek]

Okay cool, then I hope you don't mind if we make the following changes to healers:

Increase their damage options and increase their damage to be higher than tanks. Additionally, every healer gets a new action at level 10. This 25 second cooldown provides a large barrier, and if the healer targets themselves, reduces damage taken by 30% while also raising the them to the top of the threat table for the duration of the buff. This would allow healers to step in for a bad tank player in the event that player cannot use their mitigation properly or dies to mechanics. We won't touch tank tools at all, only add these new aspects to the healers, so I would imagine that's perfectly fine, correct?

Healer damage was already higher than tanks in shadowbringers, so sure, why not. Besides, I've seen plenty of times where shield healers are able to solo content themselves. Sure it's slow, but it's entirely 100% possible. I don't think, in normal content at least, that a healer death should guarantee a wipe. I don't think, in normal content at least, that a tank death should guarantee a wipe. Besides, I've already said in a previous post that if we're gonna go this route, then every job should get hallowed ground, and instead of being a cooldown it should be a stance that you toggle. There, now nobody's better than others. Easy.

[GoatOfWar]

Healer damage was already higher than tanks in shadowbringers, so sure, why not. Besides, I've seen plenty of times where shield healers are able to solo content themselves. Sure it's slow, but it's entirely 100% possible. I don't think, in normal content at least, that a healer death should guarantee a wipe. I don't think, in normal content at least, that a tank death should guarantee a wipe. Besides, I've already said in a previous post that if we're gonna go this route, then every job should get hallowed ground, and instead of being a cooldown it should be a stance that you toggle. There, now nobody's better than others. Easy.

Most reasonable War player.

[aiqa]

Healer damage was already higher than tanks in shadowbringers, so sure, why not. Besides, I've seen plenty of times where shield healers are able to solo content themselves. Sure it's slow, but it's entirely 100% possible. I don't think, in normal content at least, that a healer death should guarantee a wipe. I don't think, in normal content at least, that a tank death should guarantee a wipe. Besides, I've already said in a previous post that if we're gonna go this route, then every job should get hallowed ground, and instead of being a cooldown it should be a stance that you toggle. There, now nobody's better than others. Easy.

Well done, that is an alternative. So now we have 2 options:
- Healer players: balance the game a better so all roles have their place in all group content
- WAR player(s?): give everyone god mode

But since this is the thread about the healer concerns. It's probably smart to make your own thread with that suggestion. That way it can get it's own attention without being drowned out by healers posting their own point of view. You could even organize a WAR strike to try get it implemented.

[GoatOfWar]

Well done, that is an alternative. So now we have 2 options:
- Healer players: balance the game a better so all roles have their place in all group content
- WAR player(s?): give everyone god mode

But since this is the thread about the healer concerns. It's probably smart to make your own thread with that suggestion. That way it can get it's own attention without being drowned out by healers posting their own point of view. You could even organize a WAR strike to try get it implemented.

Scholar players when Expedience gets nerfed: Understandable, we'll take that, Our job is still really good.
War players when you suggest they nerf their comically overpowered sustain: ''No just break the rest of the game so i can continue my power fantasy''

[Kazmarek]

Well done, that is an alternative. So now we have 2 options:
- Healer players: balance the game a better so all rules have their place in all group content
- WAR player(s?): give everyone god mode

But since this is the thread about the healer concerns. It's probably smart to make your own thread with that suggestion. That way it can get it's own attention without being drowned out by healers posting their own point of view. You could even organize a WAR strike to try get it implemented.

There's no need to organize a WAR strike, my job's just fine. You all are the ones trying to bring everyone else down. Actually, that's unfair, some of you are rooting for healer changes without touching other roles and that's something I can get behind 100%. It's the ones that are directing their frustrations towards tanks that don't deserve any respect. Your jobs feel bad to play already, why do you want everyone else to experience the same thing? Spite? That's no way to go about it.

So really, as long as the sentiment is "we need to nerf other jobs to feel better about ourselves," then for all I care you can stay shouting into the void for another 5 years. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy my job that ensures my roulettes are going to get cleared one way or another.

[Rehayem]

There's no need to organize a WAR strike, my job's just fine. You all are the ones trying to bring everyone else down. Actually, that's unfair, some of you are rooting for healer changes without touching other roles and that's something I can get behind 100%. It's the ones that are directing their frustrations towards tanks that don't deserve any respect. Your jobs feel bad to play already, why do you want everyone else to experience the same thing? Spite? That's no way to go about it.

So really, as long as the sentiment is "we need to nerf other jobs to feel better about ourselves," then for all I care you can stay shouting into the void for another 5 years. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy my job that ensures my roulettes are going to get cleared one way or another.

I fail to understand your strong sentiment against improving the healer situation. Are you just concerned WAR will become a total pleb or something?

Balancing jobs the most crucial thing, especially if SE advertizes the game as a "trinity based mmorpg". Aion suffered a similar fate where Cleric (basically WHM) and Chanter (support healer/shielder/buffer type of thing) got their heals immensely nerfed for no reason whatsoever, their skills included. What ended up happening is people ditching those classes because... well, what's the point if there's no fun in healing?

Balancing jobs will involve nerfing all jobs -- whether you like this or not, if SE wants the game to survive another 10 years, some drastic changes have to be made. It's not unreasonable to ask SE to look at a major issue creeping in since EW because things will get worse by the time 8.0 comes if this goes unadressed, and I believe YoshiP will ignore this in the long run. The healer situation is this bad because YoshiP doesn't play his own game, let alone a healer role.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Healer damage was already higher than tanks in shadowbringers, so sure, why not. Besides, I've seen plenty of times where shield healers are able to solo content themselves. Sure it's slow, but it's entirely 100% possible. I don't think, in normal content at least, that a healer death should guarantee a wipe. I don't think, in normal content at least, that a tank death should guarantee a wipe. Besides, I've already said in a previous post that if we're gonna go this route, then every job should get hallowed ground, and instead of being a cooldown it should be a stance that you toggle. There, now nobody's better than others. Easy.

Can you share what content a shield healer is soloing? They don't have the HP pool and built-in mitigation to withstand an onslaught. They might be able to run in circles and spam heal themselves for a while but then where is the dps? At some point they will not be able to keep up with the healing on themselves or live through certain tankbusters. So...what current content is being solo'd by a Scholar or a Sage?

[Kazmarek]

Can you share what content a shield healer is soloing? They don't have the HP pool and built-in mitigation to withstand an onslaught. They might be able to run in circles and spam heal themselves for a while but then where is the dps? At some point they will not be able to keep up with the healing on themselves or live through certain tankbusters. So...what current content is being solo'd by a Scholar or a Sage?

Dungeons, mainly, though some trials are also doable. Go do it for yourself. If you're a skilled healer, you'll be able to do it just fine. Because you are a skilled healer, yes?

[ZephyrMenodora]

Dungeons, mainly, though some trials are also doable. Go do it for yourself. If you're a skilled healer, you'll be able to do it just fine. Because you are a skilled healer, yes?

Which dungeons? Which trials? Since you have seen this "plenty of times" - what are your examples of trials and dungeons healers can solo?

I personally have never seen a healer solo a level 90 trial (or any class when it comes to an actual trial), and never have seen a healer solo a boss in a dungeon. For fun I can go try some trash pack and see how that turns out. Definitely never heard stories of people being held hostage to healers soloing bosses for 15 minutes while the team watches, if it's even possible as you say.