#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

This is just wrong. If you look at the datacenters, you'll find that there are more congested servers in JP, in addition to more servers overall than in the NA datacenter. That conveys more need, more necessity.
Also, that website you cited is from 2023, and is not official. It's interesting, but in no way, shape, or form conclusive enough for you to sit there and think you can discredit my point about the game being primarily for a Japanese majority audience, because it is.


This is just not true at all. Mobile gaming is definitely more popular in Japan, but that isn't to say that console or traditional video game platforms (consoles, PC) are struggling there.

Also, to argue that JRPGs do better in foreign markets than they do in their home one is just conjecture on your part. That's like arguing Fallout New Vegas is more popular than SMT or Persona in Japan, or vice versa. There are exceptions, like FFXVI which did very poorly in Japan but better in the West, but that isn't saying much given that it sold poorly overall due to being an exclusive to the PS5 when more people are still playing on their PS4s or have PCs.

I’m not arguing for or against your point that the strike would be better with a little more organisation and some kind of “manifesto” but your point that there are more JP players than English speaking players is wrong

This is the official census
https://ffxivcensus.com/

And NA outnumbers JP alone in both total and endgame characters even ignoring OCE and EU

If you add all non JP servers together (I’m ignoring China) JP is outnumbered 2 to 1

[rockidayo]

Found out about this, adding myself to the thread to show my support. #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Telkira]

I’m not arguing for or against your point that the strike would be better with a little more organisation and some kind of “manifesto” but your point that there are more JP players than English speaking players is wrong

This is the official census
https://ffxivcensus.com/

And NA outnumbers JP alone in both total and endgame characters even ignoring OCE and EU

If you add all non JP servers together (I’m ignoring China) JP is outnumbered 2 to 1

That's not official at all. That's someone's Github project. I'm basing my information on what SE is willing to give out, not what some crawlers or botnet is willing to do via scraping Lodestone with inconsistent/inaccurate criteria.

The fact that Japanese datacenters are prioritized in terms of physical capacity and quantity, along with the way the game is received there overall compared to the West, is enough. It also makes sense, it is their native market after all, and that there are more JP datacenters that are at full capacity (meaning even new characters cannot be made there) is all I need to see.

[Saraide]

In case anyone needs to read this: you dont need to be perfect and without any flaws to criticize healer design. I'd rather have people do something than be bogged down by unrealistic standards and comparisons to IRL unions which have existed for decades or by people allegedally concerned about optics.

[Gemina]

Well then, come up with a plan of action that is actually conducive to that goal, rather than just pasting into your discord profiles and search info boxes some vague and nonsensical call to action that doesn't even resonate with your own demographic, that being other healers.

Maybe look at the social and political psychology of unions and why some work, while others fail. But also keep in mind that this is still a Japanese MMORPG.
Appeal to not just your own group of players, but others too. Make a compelling, thoughtful, well-resourced and grounded argument and start an actual grassroots movement that is equal parts inviting and compelling, and not purely disruptive, because that's what players will see first and foremost.

What are you talking about? This protest is stupid, and will accomplish nothing. Remember? Your Discord is laughing hysterically, remember?

Now it is disruptive and what players will see first? If you're going to be conflictive and belligerent, at least be consistent.

BTW...

This is just wrong. If you look at the datacenters, you'll find that there are more congested servers in JP, in addition to more servers overall than in the NA datacenter. That conveys more need, more necessity.
Also, that website you cited is from 2023, and is not official. It's interesting, but in no way, shape, or form conclusive enough for you to sit there and think you can discredit my point about the game being primarily for a Japanese majority audience, because it is.

You understand that which regions house more players is irrelevant, correct? You understand this because you are fully aware that a serious portion of their revenue is generated by the western playerbase. Of course you do. And if it seems like I am being patronizing. It's because I am.

[Telkira]

If I were honest, I think this strike is pretty successful and the fact you are responding tells me it is in your mind which is the whole point. The fact this strike lives rent free in your brain tells me you at least thought of it.
I want to genuinely know your motivation behind trying to shut down the strike- why do you think it is stupid?

And getting people like me to slither out from the rocks we live under like snakes to point and laugh at you all for doing this isn't really 'success', in fact I think a compelling argument can be made for it being the exact opposite of that.

As for healers getting the short end of the stick, I play healer from time to time too. I'm certainly not good at it, still with a lot to learn, but I do well enough to help my friends on console pop queues fast and do other things for myself. I know how hard it can be, and I've seen what healers go thru. You're basically like one of those dog walkers with like 6-12 dogs on multiple leashes at once, only instead of dogs they're ADHD children of multiple different builds trying to play in traffic.

But that doesn't change the fact that those grievances you have won't be solved by being purely disruptive. The Manifesto isn't even clear enough on what the goals are, and honestly the fact that there's no actual organizing, combined with the outrageous nature of the concept itself drastically overshadows any validity it could theoretically have.

I'm sorry, but this is literally a waste of time. I just hope nobody got GM banned for dipping out of a duty because they fell for this.

[ty_taurus]

I'm sorry, but this is literally a waste of time. I just hope nobody got GM banned for dipping out of a duty because they fell for this.

So then why are you wasting your time on it? I'll ask again (because you didn't answer), what are you trying to get out of this? How do you physically benefit from being really nasty and abrasive about this? What are you walking away from this conversation having obtained?

[OgruMogru]

And getting people like me to slither out from the rocks we live under like snakes to point and laugh at you all for doing this isn't really 'success', in fact I think a compelling argument can be made for it being the exact opposite of that.

As for healers getting the short end of the stick, I play healer from time to time too. I'm certainly not good at it, still with a lot to learn, but I do well enough to help my friends on console pop queues fast and do other things for myself. I know how hard it can be, and I've seen what healers go thru. You're basically like one of those dog walkers with like 6-12 dogs on multiple leashes at once, only instead of dogs they're ADHD children of multiple different builds trying to play in traffic.

But that doesn't change the fact that those grievances you have won't be solved by being purely disruptive. The Manifesto isn't even clear enough on what the goals are, and honestly the fact that there's no actual organizing, combined with the outrageous nature of the concept itself drastically overshadows any validity it could theoretically have.

I'm sorry, but this is literally a waste of time. I just hope nobody got GM banned for dipping out of a duty because they fell for this.

You're still really angry no one agreed with your tirade about localization I guess? No one is advocating actions such as duty dipping or disrupting ongoing queues, simply refusing to take part at all. No one's spitefully hunched over their DF salivating at being able to cancel a queue pop 3 times a day.

[Turtledeluxe]

"There is no call to action in this thread calling for a strike!"

Also TC literally linked a lot of the grievances in the previous thread, which led to the strike. .

[Local_Custard]

And getting people like me to slither out from the rocks we live under like snakes to point and laugh at you all for doing this isn't really 'success', in fact I think a compelling argument can be made for it being the exact opposite of that.

As for healers getting the short end of the stick, I play healer from time to time too. I'm certainly not good at it, still with a lot to learn, but I do well enough to help my friends on console pop queues fast and do other things for myself. I know how hard it can be, and I've seen what healers go thru. You're basically like one of those dog walkers with like 6-12 dogs on multiple leashes at once, only instead of dogs they're ADHD children of multiple different builds trying to play in traffic.

But that doesn't change the fact that those grievances you have won't be solved by being purely disruptive. The Manifesto isn't even clear enough on what the goals are, and honestly the fact that there's no actual organizing, combined with the outrageous nature of the concept itself drastically overshadows any validity it could theoretically have.

I'm sorry, but this is literally a waste of time. I just hope nobody got GM banned for dipping out of a duty because they fell for this.

So if I am getting this correctly, the strike is a failure because: you and your friends are laughing at the strike and it is disorganized? And that being disruptive alone won't do much?
I don't think those three conditions mean a fail state imo. A fail state is if the strike only had a couple of likes and was quickly buried. The fact a lot of people are coming out and joining in means something at least.

I'll ask again: do you have a better concise plan for this strike to work? What would this plan look like (even if just general details)? I am getting a sense you may or may not know how strikes work so please do give us some information on that.

So you do see healer as a role has problems. You seem to care enough to comment multiple times and respond with more than a sentence. Tell me, would you like to see healing being more fulfilling in this game? Do you want healers to matter in content? I get that healing can have stress with it- you have to manage hp and contend with players who might die multiple times or be oblivious to one or multiple mechanics. But that is what you signed up for with this role. Healers are very support oriented and keep other players and yourself alive. There should obviously be more to it than "I exist to correct mistakes!"- it could be "I contribute to utility and also help keep the boss in check. I can do more than just heal".