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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    As has been discussed in this thread:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...thout-healers.

    I would like to make this the official thread for those in support of a healer strike as a collective voice to the dev team to express the dissatisfaction with the continued direction the game has gone concerning healer gameplay and what is an arrived consensus that has deemed to be a negligence towards the role, as well as the players who main it.

    I would like to note that this thread is not to attack, or in any way intended to be offensive towards any member of the dev team, Director/Producer Naoki Yoshida, Square Enix, or any of its affiliates. The purpose of the healer strike and this thread is to garner support for necessary changes and adjustments to be made in order to once again validate its place in content that requires grouping, and an equal contributed effort among all members of the group in order to facilitate clears within FFXIV.

    Please use this thread to voice your concerns, express your feelings in a constructive manner, point out issues, make suggestions, and to add your name to those who will be striking.

    The strike entails that players will not be participating in group content as any of the four available jobs to the healer role. It is understandable that there are likely active statics that are still working on EW content and healer mains in general who would like to finish out the current expansion. In fairness, I would like to give those healers who wish to participate a grace period before the strike is official.

    Please provide your feedback as to the conditions to end the strike and the date it should begin. I am thinking the strike will be officially underway when Dawntrail launches on Tuesday, July 2, 2024.

    I appreciate your time fellow adventurers. Let our voices and our hearts be heard.

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    I think it's pertinent to also point out that the dungeon was one that is meant to be cleared in MSQ. You might be barking up the wrong tree and will want to abstain judgment until the game actually releases and we get to end game and experience that in order to attain a better opinion on the matter? And, as it is MSQ content, you can have your strike regardless, I'll just take my Trust, thanks
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by doGehT View Post
    I think it's pertinent to also point out that the dungeon was one that is meant to be cleared in MSQ. You might be barking up the wrong tree and will want to abstain judgment until the game actually releases and we get to end game and experience that in order to attain a better opinion on the matter? And, as it is MSQ content, you can have your strike regardless, I'll just take my Trust, thanks
    Shadowbringers and Endwalker's first dungeons mobs hit like a truck and they were MSQ. So I really don't think that's the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    I am just saying sorry should it work. Dps community deserves it as their ques will be the ones that suffer.
    The intent of #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE is not to induce suffering. I really wish people would stop misconstruing the intent behind the protest as something vitriolic and vindictive. You have to keep in mind that many of us will be entering the queues as either DPS or tank and will deal with whatever consequences that may or may not arise as a result of the effort.

    Quote Originally Posted by doGehT View Post
    I think it's pertinent to also point out that the dungeon was one that is meant to be cleared in MSQ. You might be barking up the wrong tree and will want to abstain judgment until the game actually releases and we get to end game and experience that in order to attain a better opinion on the matter? And, as it is MSQ content, you can have your strike regardless, I'll just take my Trust, thanks
    You would need to read my post from the thread that caused my to start the hashtag. That dungeon clear had nothing to do with this. 1 tank/3DPS comps have been clearing dungeons as far back as I can remember. Even as far back as HW. My judgment was casted when I learned of the tooltips coming with DT and witnessed that not only did they double down with the increased self-sustain of the tanks, but they even added insult to injury by granting additional healing abilities to DPS jobs. One of those being MNK, which is already a heavy hitting melee job with its own strong self-sustain + party utility with Brotherhood. Did this job really need a 500pot group heal on top of all that? Seriously. Did it?

    That dungeon only showcased that nothing has changed with encounter design and healing requirements to warrant the additional encroachment of the healer role. Furthermore, I am someone who defended this dev team to the nines for years. For a long time had I tried to harmonize the playerbase, the factions within it, and the dev team. So when you say I'm barking up the wrong tree, that was actually within these very forums trying to convince everyone we are all on the same side while my efforts were only met with silence from the dev team. I never expected them to show gratitude, but I definitely did not expect them to alienate the role I love to the point of redundancy for multiple expansions.

    Also bear in mind that their response to Xeno's dungeon clear was "7.2. Please look forward to it." GMAFB
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    The point of the thread is to foster discussion that leads to things like Discords, YouTube videos, Twitch streams, reddit posts, journalist coverage. Those things don't just apparate on their own. A launching point has to begin somewhere.

    Hope this helps, stop being scared of the thread xoxo.

    Some of you also don't seem to consider that many people either a. Haven't thought about it or b. Never felt it was popular enough to speak up about on their own. This thread can help change someone's perspective who otherwise might just be settling or lack the confidence to ask for better.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-11-2024 at 09:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    The healing community also appologies for deciding that you are perfectly alright with shouldering this burden.
    Yeah that's what I'll be doing because I'm not healing, rather wait in a 30 min queue than be a Diosis mage, kind of the point of the strike
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    Fwiw there's precedent in stuff like this actually working before. Bowmage also had similar threads in HW and there were a few about wonky balance for 3.0 DRG/AST and 4.0 BLM.
    And you guys are getting more traction than those did and maybe can have some reach on social media. Keep up the good fight, healers. Maybe it doesn't solve anything, but maybe it does!
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    I did as fun joke with some friends that are decent low lvl 3 dps 1 tank runs (war ofc). Like we had a lvl 70 dungeon and holmister switch as lvl dungeon and 50/60/70/80 dungeon. Holmister was scary at some specific points but still possible. Like if we can do these harder hitting dungeons were the war had less sustain even without a big problem lvl from 80-90 and 90-100 with 3 dps and 1 tank will be pretty possible when even the first dungeon in das trail is a joke.
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    I dont mind healers as they are. Definitely wont 'sign' this petition.
    Me still having fun playing my whm.
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    Damn people really love simping for corporations here lmao
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    WAR should do less damage than any of the healers if the whole point of its insanely high healing is to give more space to healers to deal more damage.
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