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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    Well then, come up with a plan of action that is actually conducive to that goal, rather than just pasting into your discord profiles and search info boxes some vague and nonsensical call to action that doesn't even resonate with your own demographic, that being other healers.

    Maybe look at the social and political psychology of unions and why some work, while others fail. But also keep in mind that this is still a Japanese MMORPG.
    Appeal to not just your own group of players, but others too. Make a compelling, thoughtful, well-resourced and grounded argument and start an actual grassroots movement that is equal parts inviting and compelling, and not purely disruptive, because that's what players will see first and foremost.
    What are you talking about? This protest is stupid, and will accomplish nothing. Remember? Your Discord is laughing hysterically, remember?

    Now it is disruptive and what players will see first? If you're going to be conflictive and belligerent, at least be consistent.

    BTW...

    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    This is just wrong. If you look at the datacenters, you'll find that there are more congested servers in JP, in addition to more servers overall than in the NA datacenter. That conveys more need, more necessity.
    Also, that website you cited is from 2023, and is not official. It's interesting, but in no way, shape, or form conclusive enough for you to sit there and think you can discredit my point about the game being primarily for a Japanese majority audience, because it is.
    You understand that which regions house more players is irrelevant, correct? You understand this because you are fully aware that a serious portion of their revenue is generated by the western playerbase. Of course you do. And if it seems like I am being patronizing. It's because I am.
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    Aknora Telkira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    What are you talking about? This protest is stupid, and will accomplish nothing. Remember? Your Discord is laughing hysterically, remember?

    Now it is disruptive and what players will see first? If you're going to be conflictive and belligerent, at least be consistent.
    I don't see how me trying to explain to you guys how you could effectively achieve the change you all claim to want to see is me being 'inconsistent'. I dare express some good faith and you swat it away, oh how dare I, the loathsome troll think I could ever be capable of being constructive... I poke flaws in your very approach and outline specifically why I think it jumps from pathetic to knee-slappingly hilarious so that way those who organized this meme could maybe learn a thing or two, and understand that feedback from a consumerbase is far more nuanced and complex than people complaining about something.

    But you said it yourself, it's not going to accomplish anything.

    You understand that which regions house more players is irrelevant, correct? You understand this because you are fully aware that a serious portion of their revenue is generated by the western playerbase. Of course you do. And if it seems like I am being patronizing. It's because I am.
    I mean.. you're the ones showing me two different sources with wildly different numbers and metrics, and both sources were both unofficial and methodologically flawed. I'm not saying they're worthless, I'm just not willing to overlook what can be gleamed from the official sources.

    Also I'm pretty sure that congestion also means activity, like if a server has a lot of travelers/wanderers/voyagers (Balmung on Crystal, for example) then that affects it. Until we have accurate sources/statistics from SE themselves, then it would be best to trust their indicators, and not some unofficial 'census' that probably doesn't even account for character name/server changes.
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