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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    As has been discussed in this thread:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...thout-healers.

    I would like to make this the official thread for those in support of a healer strike as a collective voice to the dev team to express the dissatisfaction with the continued direction the game has gone concerning healer gameplay and what is an arrived consensus that has deemed to be a negligence towards the role, as well as the players who main it.
    Not to sound rude or try to offend anyone, but your pathetic little 'healer strike' isn't going to do anything aside from be a minor annoyance to players.

    Yes, it's agreeable that class balance is an issue. Discussions can be had, etc.
    Yes, some classes seem like they have too much self-sustain (or more than they really need), but that's part of the previous point.

    But a strike??? This isn't going to work. I laughed when I heard about this, because it's just not going to work. It's a big game, and the majority of players (who are Japanese) likely aren't going to participate in something that only EN-speaking Westerners seem to care about.

    Do you expect Japanese, German, or French-speaking players to partake in this??? The endgame raider community isn't so tight-knit that everyone who does it pays attention to what talking heads on Twitch, Reddit, etc. This is a big game that spans across multiple platforms and communities, most of whom don't even bother with the forum.

    Also, this isn't your game. If Japanese players were upset about this, then there'd be some merit, since it's their game and it's they who are the primary audience, but a literal handful of Redditors LARPing like this is an Amazon fulfillment center isn't going to do anything to persuade SE to make what are core gameplay adjustments.

    Know your place and enjoy the game.
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    Last edited by Telkira; 06-11-2024 at 06:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    Not to sound rude or try to offend anyone, but your pathetic little 'healer strike' isn't going to do anything aside from be a minor annoyance to players.
    "Not to sound rude or try to offend anyone..." *proceeds to be rude and offend everyone.*
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
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    Eh, why bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    Not to sound rude or try to offend anyone, but your pathetic little 'healer strike' isn't going to do anything aside from be a minor annoyance to players. {snip}

    Know your place and enjoy the game.

    there's no society on the planet where what you just CHOSE to type out and post isn't absurdly rude and hostile. you are CLEARLY trying to goad people into being hostile back to you, so you can feel like you "won" by getting people riled up.

    i'm sorry that your life is so unfulfilling that you need to come into the a forum on a discussion of something that you claim doesn't affect you, just to feel better about yourself by trying to start fights. maybe you should go volunteer at your local library to reshelve books. it would be more productive than starting fights on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDruidOcelot View Post
    there's no society on the planet where what you just CHOSE to type out and post isn't absurdly rude and hostile.

    i'm sorry that your life is so unfulfilling that you need to come into the a forum on a discussion of something that you claim doesn't affect you, just to feel better about yourself by trying to start fights. maybe you should go volunteer at your local library to reshelve books. it would be more productive than starting fights on the internet.
    Dude.

    You guys are unironically trying to organize a STRIKE on a Japanese MMORPG.
    The fact that you don't even speak the same language as the majority of the game's playerbase (also said game's target audience) should have been enough to dissuade you all from thinking this was a productive endeavor.

    I can't even type that with a straight face, I'm not even trying to troll, I'm just being honest. It's the type of thing that people joke about when discussing terminally-online MMORPG addicts.

    You guys want to sit here and pretend like there's some universal, unspoken 'union' of Healer mains or something when it's literally not going to result in any meaningful action.
    Nobody is going to partake, at least not in enough numbers to where it results in a meaningful or desirable outcome.

    I brought this up in a discord server that I'm in and people's responses were "wait since when was there a union?" and I linked the thread and people started laughing. They're laughing at this very idea. I'm laughing.
    That '#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE' might as well be a clown costume because they're also laughing at you all for rallying behind this.

    I don't see how anyone can sit there and accuse me of trolling or fishing for bait responses when the very concept is so ridiculous that I would presume it to be bait.
    Actually, let me ask people in the thread this:

    What's the plan?

    Do you guys have an actual way of persuading people into partaking in this when all they want to do is probably play their game?

    Are you guys going around advertising a discord in-game? Talking about it in /shout chat in Ul'dah or Limsa?

    What will you guys do when people who just want to play the game get tired of it inevitably begin reporting people who spam the clown hashtag for organized trolling?

    What sort of grassroots activity has actually happened aside from blogging about it and acting like you're able to make progress?
    More people were (rightfully) upset over Haurchefant being butchered than this, and the devs actually owned up to that and admitted it was a mistake.

    Seriously. Just think about it from the context of another game for more than a few seconds and then it'll probably hit you.

    If not, gods speed and gods damn.
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    Last edited by Telkira; 06-11-2024 at 01:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    Dude.

    You guys are unironically trying to organize a STRIKE on a Japanese MMORPG.

    I can't even type that with a straight face, I'm not even trying to troll, I'm just being honest. It's the type of thing that people joke about when discussing terminally-online MMORPG addicts.

    You guys want to sit here and pretend like there's some universal, unspoken 'union' of Healer mains or something when it's literally not going to result in any meaningful action.
    Nobody is going to partake, at least not in enough numbers to where it results in a meaningful or desirable outcome.

    I brought this up in a discord server that I'm in and people's responses were "wait since when was there a union?" and I linked the thread and people started laughing. They're laughing at this very idea. I'm laughing.
    That '#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE' might as well be a clown costume because they're also laughing at you all for rallying behind this.

    I don't see how anyone can sit there and accuse me of trolling or fishing for bait responses when the very concept is so ridiculous. Seriously. Just think about it from the context of another game for more than a few seconds and then it'll probably hit you.

    If not, gods speed and gods damn.
    bruh. bruh. babes. sweetie.

    bless your little cotton socks, but if you don't like this thread, nobody is making you be here.

    you being hostile to people in a thread that you don't need to be in is more of a problem than people using their own personal agency in how they play a video game.

    so sweetie. kiddo. why don't you go do something productive with your time, if we're all "terminally-online mmo addicts" as you said. go volunteer at a library! or at your local humane society! you'd have a better time than riling yourself up and being nasty to people. ^-^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    Snip...
    Damn, dude... Did a bird poop in your coffee this morning or something? You seem really bitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    Dude.
    Look, nobody is forcing you to come in here and call everyone clowns and terminally-online MMORPG addicts or whatever else. That's what you have chosen to do. Going into places you don't have to be in and calling people names because you disagree with what they're doing is generally regarded as being rude and very likely troll behaviour.

    Why are you so concerned over this anyway? If you hate the idea of it so much, why even bother engaging with us here? Why not just leave us be and go enjoy your life if you're so certain that this would end in failure?
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