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  1. #621
    Player Bun_Vivant's Avatar
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    Bun Vivant
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 95
    Quote Originally Posted by Kissune View Post
    This ... it's about sending a message to the devs that a lot of people who have stuck with this role for a very long time are unsatisfied with the game and are willing to take action over it.
    Please quantify what, in your opinion, constitutes "a lot of people," out of a player base of millions of subscribers and an estimated half a million daily users.

    Personally, I think less than 1% of either of those numbers (e.g. less than 5000 people) doesn't count as "a lot:" ordinary variations in weather probably make a bigger difference in the number of healers queuing for duties.

    And if the effect of your "strike" is less than the effect of the weather, why would SE even notice?

    I have 6 EoC characters, all SGE main, all iL640 or better. I had been planning to initially just level one SGE when DT launches, but with the opportunity this "strike" is presenting for faster green queue pops, I'll probably do my roulettes on all 6. So, thanks!
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    Last edited by Bun_Vivant; 06-11-2024 at 03:39 AM.

  2. #622
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    The team reads the forum. We just had the benchmark updated based on forum feedback...
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  3. #623
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    aiqa's Avatar
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Why we needed Aero 3 and Aero 2 removed and replaced with nothing.
    Aero 2 wasn't removed, it is directly upgraded to Dia. And in DT WHM offense kit looks to tbe best it's ever been.
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  4. #624
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    It still does! In WoW, that is.
    I keep seeing WoW referenced. WoW apparently has the same issue. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...thin/1873478/7
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  5. #625
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    Aero 2 wasn't removed, it is directly upgraded to Dia. And in DT WHM offense kit looks to tbe best it's ever been.
    Wasn't Aero 2 a cast with a 12 second dot at some point? Separated from regular Aero?

    Glare IV being available for 3 casts is fine but it will do little to fix the Glarespam. 3 casts of glare every two minutes is a minuscule variance in GCD usage.
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  6. #626
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    PapaFranku's Avatar
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    Timur Ura
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Just to put it into perspective, the "please stop genderlocking gear" thread on the front page has 117 likes and that's probably considered a majority opinion. This thread is getting even more support than that.
    Again, that's less than a single percentage point of the player base, not even 0.04%, it's popular on here because there probably isn't even a thousand people browsing the NA forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    The team reads the forum. We just had the benchmark updated based on forum feedback...
    More like Twitter had something to do with that, considering that platform is far more vocal and wider reaching than here, they probably just called it forum feedback to make it sound like they were listening to the forums.
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  7. #627
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    Gember's Avatar
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    Snow Fox
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    Zurvan
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    Fisher Lv 58
    By chance, is anyone going to put this hashtag in the party finders? I know a lot of players don't check social media for FFXIV, so something needs to be said in the game itself. I would recommend Fellowship, but it's not popular at all. (Though someone could technically still put one up for a shoutout.)
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  8. #628
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    MuraBoy's Avatar
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    Mura Harusame
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    Behemoth
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    Agreed
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  9. #629
    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Nanapie Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaFranku View Post
    I can understand where this all comes from, because healing is incredibly boring to play now one hundred percent. But as some said, they barely ever look at these forums, I still remember the times when NA shout chat in the hub cities was PURELY bot spam, and I think someone did say that here, and it wasn't until YoshiP went through NA worlds being lambasted by that sort of stuff before they made any attempt to cull it. Ideally they do something about how boring healers are, but... I don't see that happening any time soon, but one can hope. The rest of this is seen from my viewpoint as someone who plays ALL classes, and not just a single one.

    Saying this is "popular" is a bit of a stretch when, even if you topped one thousand people in the Discord, you're still less than a single percent of the active player base. 169 out of 550k is like 0.03%? Somewhere around there, this unfortunately won't gain much traction because with new players coming, returning players, players who don't care will come in to fill the void left by people here not playing a healer, or playing the game for that matter. For anything to change, you need a significant portion of the player base to do anything, and not just a few thousand, you need tens of thousands of players to actually do it before there might be an actual effect felt.

    On the topic of tank classes getting healing, you can primarily attribute that to people being spiteful in dungeons as healers, or healers not actually learning their job, or just a general malaise towards actually healing. Is it necessary? Probably not, but at the same time having the ability to keep a dungeon going because your healer decided that they didn't want to heal you because you did something they didn't like is nice, because instead of wasting the two other player's time in the dungeon you can continue as normal. It's functionally players ruining it for others, you know... Like how literally any other job can ruin a run by not having a single clue what they're doing, but more so on tanks and healers as they can dictate the pace of a dungeon, effectively either making a smooth quick run for the other players, or an absolute waste of time for other players.

    All in all, I hope they make healing a better experience, sooner rather than later but... I'm not optimistic on CBU3's track record for this kind of thing.

    They need to make all jobs and rotations interesting again, just because you press more different buttons as a Tank or a DPS doesnt mean the class is fun or interesting, aall jobs are extremely stle and need a complete overhaul and made different, not just builders spenders because thats the most mindnumbinglyu boring gameplay design.
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  10. #630
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Wasn't Aero 2 a cast with a 12 second dot at some point? Separated from regular Aero?

    Glare IV being available for 3 casts is fine but it will do little to fix the Glarespam. 3 casts of glare every two minutes is a minuscule variance in GCD usage.
    Aero gets upgraded to to Aero 2 at level 46, through the Aero Mastery trait.
    Then Aero 2 gets upgraded to Dia at level 72, through the Aero Mastery 2 trait.
    Aero/Aero2 duration was a bit lower in the past. I think 18 seconds, but that is from memory. But it's been 30 seconds for years now.
    The separate Aero was Aero 3, you could stack Aero 2 with 3.

    And yes, Glare spam is an issue. But the 1 extra DoT (Aero 3) we had in the past wouldn't fix that either. And Fluid Aura was hardly ever used, I don't miss that at all. The fix to WHM dps rotations isn't found in the past as far as I'm concerned.
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    Last edited by aiqa; 06-11-2024 at 04:05 AM.

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