Yo-Kai Event: BLU Major Griefing Problem

[Themarvin]

Just to play devil's advocate, the Yokai Watch is also optional content and the rewards in it as well.

Not getting very far with it as you know for yourself that, that is already shot down.

Yokai event as so many other events has been based on that you can do them from being very low level and not even be able to fly and the likes, none of these events has been based on some sideshow job can just waltz in and override everything, you know it is wrong, and that is just how it is, it create an unfair advantage towards the actual jobs inside the game.

[ZiraZ]

Try to spam holy like an idiot in limsa and see how it goes?
"But I was just using a spell the game intended me to use"

Try reporting people for clearing fates quickly with blu and see how it goes?
Griefing the poor GM with false reports!

[Sesera]

Try reporting people for clearing fates quickly with blu and see how it goes?
Griefing the poor GM with false reports!

If someone one shot a fate with blue and is asked to not do it so people can participate to the fate and keep doing it they will absolutly get rekt by gm.

If a blue mage is using hydro pull and aoe to kill mobs faster they won't get in any trouble and nobody has problem with blues like that anyway.

[ZiraZ]

If someone one shot a fate with blue and is asked to not do it so people can participate to the fate and keep doing it they will absolutly get rekt by gm.

If a blue mage is using hydro pull and aoe to kill mobs faster they won't get in any trouble and nobody has problem with blues like that anyway.

Asking someone to stop doing something that isn't against the rules doesn't turn whatever that person is doing into something illegal just because you asked.
That's like if you asked a group of players that goes around the world blowing up A-ranks to leave the A's for the train or they'll get reported, yeah that has happened before and it always leads to the same result, fates and world bosses are all fair game.

[Menriq]

Not getting very far with it as you know for yourself that, that is already shot down.

Yokai event as so many other events has been based on that you can do them from being very low level and not even be able to fly and the likes, none of these events has been based on some sideshow job can just waltz in and override everything, you know it is wrong, and that is just how it is, it create an unfair advantage towards the actual jobs inside the game.

Your opinion can say it's wrong, but as of now, it does not appear that SE has any issue with it. People complained about ilevel cheese for AR, and nothing happened for years. When SE did it address it, I didn't hear of any reports of people who were doing it "getting rekt by a gm" as someone else mentioned. If they change it, then they change it. If they don't, all you can do is voice your displeasure, but I have serious doubts that anything will come of these reports to GM.

[Toutatis]

Asking someone to stop doing something that isn't against the rules doesn't turn whatever that person is doing into something illegal just because you asked.

Maybe not but I don’t see why people can’t be considerate and wait a few seconds before one shotting a fate when they know there are people right beside them trying to get credit too. I played as tank so I could ignore blue mages as I am faster and have high enmity but when I see people around me trying to hit the fate boss or ads on a slower job, I just stop doing damage to give them a chance to get full credit as the ARR fates die in no time.

That's like if you asked a group of players that goes around the world blowing up A-ranks to leave the A's for the train or they'll get reported, yeah that has happened before and it always leads to the same result, fates and world bosses are all fair game.

No, it’s not. The train can be in a few hours, 20 minutes whatever. It’s not a matter of seconds. With fates it’s just letting people who are already there take a few hits so they can get credit too and not lose their time.

A better comparison would be A rank trains in older expansions (4.0 and 5.0) or during busy times when there are a lot of people. Some people will just try to hit as hard as they can despite people asking to slow dps resulting in some players not being able to get full credit because the boss dies too fast. I just throw my weapon twice to build enmity and (that’s all I need to get full credit) to try to give everyone present the opportunity to get full credit. I don’t get why being considerate is so difficult to some.

[ZiraZ]

Maybe not but I don’t see why people can’t be considerate and wait a few seconds before one shotting a fate when they know there are people right beside them trying to get credit too. I played as tank so I could ignore blue mages as I am faster and have high enmity but when I see people around me trying to hit the fate boss or ads on a slower job, I just stop doing damage to give them a chance to get full credit as the ARR fates die in no time.

No, it’s not. The train can be in a few hours, 20 minutes whatever. It’s not a matter of seconds. With fates it’s just letting people who are already there take a few hits so they can get credit too and not lose their time.

A better comparison would be A rank trains in older expansions (4.0 and 5.0) or during busy times when there are a lot of people. Some people will just try to hit as hard as they can despite people asking to slow dps resulting in some players not being able to get full credit because the boss dies too fast. I just throw my weapon twice to build enmity and that’s all I need to get full credit. I don’t get why being considerate is so difficult to some.

Sure its rude to instakill, but it's not griefing or an exploit like many people here suggest. It's absolutely not bannable and it's insane to ask for blu nerfs because of this silly event.
My simple rule has always been the second I see my entire party land and attack the enemies it's fair game to pop every primal at the fate.

[Axxion]

Try to spam holy like an idiot in limsa and see how it goes?
"But I was just using a spell the game intended me to use"

here is the thing with that you can control that by going to your settings. Can you not ask the person to stop? or just move. To me that is a non issue. A real issue is using things that are not in game like using vacum hacks now that will ruin the game but me using a class that has no function after the content for it drops and it collects dust

Making false reports will clutter the real issues being reported

By definition, griefing is something you can do using game systems to disrupt other people's play. Much like putting an obsidian block on someone's door or tnting someone's house in Minecraft. It's all stuff the game allows, but any server would ban you if you did it. People make their own rules for certain actions, but it kinda stands the same on its own. Irregardless of the present situation. I'm just adding this. You guys can keep arguing if you want, but I wanted to add that.

Here is the thing, when the first event happened nothing more nothing less. This job was designed to be limited. If the job was not limited then it would not be a issue. If you want to do this content then you have to level one, join a party with one or just go to another server. Dont say that does not happen. or the other option is to wait to see if it goes to the mog station

So what again is it really needed to report players for playing a class that can make the grind easier? For a class that cant really do nothing else out side of the content that it was design for?

[Toutatis]

Sure its rude to instakill, but it's not griefing or an exploit like many people here suggest. It's absolutely not bannable and it's insane to ask for blu nerfs because of this silly event.
My simple rule has always been the second I see my entire party land and attack the enemies it's fair game to pop every primal at the fate.

It’s true and never said the opposite. I also agree that there is no point nerfing blue mages but I wish people had more manners. It’s really not hard to use lesser attacks for a few seconds so every one can get a shot before nuking everything. Anyway, playing a tank or at least a job with instant abilities helps mitigate the blue mage «problem». Blue mages are slow casters.

[Ardeth]

here is the thing with that you can control that by going to your settings. Can you not ask the person to stop? or just move. To me that is a non issue. A real issue is using things that are not in game like using vacum hacks now that will ruin the game but me using a class that has no function after the content for it drops and it collects dust



Here is the thing, this was a thing when the first event happened nothing more nothing less. This job was designed to be limited. If the job was not limited then it would not be a issue. If you want to do this content then you have to level one, join a party with one or just go to another server. Dont say that does not happen. or the other option is to wait to see if it goes to the mog station

To be fair, I had a miserable time finding parties or getting people to join mine. I did the event mostly solo honesly. Once I started abusing off hour times when nobody was on, it was better. But "just join a group." Was impossible.