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  1. #271
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    Aidorouge's Avatar
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    I mean they'll still be around killing mobs, only you won't see them. I have no idea how this will supposedly help you in any way but suit yourself.
    It's not like there's any alternatives to dealing with the situation, and it's obviously not going to get better as it goes on, so this is the best I can do.
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  2. #272
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    It's not like there's any alternatives to dealing with the situation
    There is: play a blue mage yourself, so you can keep up with the speed at which they clear fates.
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  3. #273
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Now just think how bad it be when Beastmaster comes out and everyone is doing fates and killing every monster to level them up. Think it's bad now wait till 7.0 you will have blue mages and Beastmaster doing them.
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  4. #274
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    It's just toxic players and bad actors. An easy fix would be to make FATE mobs immune to insta kill spells, Missle, etc. Just make them miss. Blue Mage can still do it to nornal mobs and dungeons, etc. That way, it's not emboldening players to go out and nuke FATEs.

    Or, at the very least, find a way to scale them better. Nobody would be screaming on Reddit or the forums if Blue Mages were slightly faster, etc. There's a big difference between slighly faster and instant.

    My condolences to anyone who is still dealing with this. I got mine done week 2, but I would suggest Dynamis or OCE. OCE realms were pretty good for prime time since they were just waking up.
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  5. #275
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    Aidorouge's Avatar
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Maduin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    There is: play a blue mage yourself, so you can keep up with the speed at which they clear fates.
    Like I said, I do play Blue Mage, but it's not worth putting up with *other* Blue Mages or possibly being a hindrance to non-Blue Mages, so I avoid both by staying on Maduin and farming FATEs late at night when I'm fairly sure of being alone. The problem is I still run into the occasional band of "travelers" who nuke things before I arrive, or non-Blues who become immediately repulsed by me being there and mount back up and fly to the next FATE. In both cases, I've gotten some not-so-nice tells and emotes sent my way and the only recourse was to blacklist+move to a different zone (while possibly getting blacklisted myself despite saying nothing, I was simply "wrong place at the wrong time").

    This entire event has done wonders to dispel any notion I had of a "super friendly playerbase" and all it took was some limited time goofy looking minions/mounts/weapons, lol.
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  6. #276
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    Erzaa Skarlett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    It's not like there's any alternatives to dealing with the situation, and it's obviously not going to get better as it goes on, so this is the best I can do.
    Blue Mage is a job that exists in the game. It has limited uses, doing FATEs quickly is one of the very few uses it has. FATEs are already mind numbingly boring as it is, why wouldn't people want to make something tedious go faster?

    The crazy part is that nobody even cares about FATEs, barely anybody does them outside of relics or a few rewards in ShB and EW, and Blue Mage being able to melt them was considered a bonus before this event. Now all of a sudden, Blue Mage is the Boogeyman.

    Other blue mage players didn't pay extra for the job, it's not like we have some privilege or access to something you don't. It's right there, you've unlocked it, you've gotten it to level 70, you've got 50 spells already.

    In all the time you're wasting complaining about blue mages, a legitimate job that's in the game, you could go grab Aetheric Mimicry, Basic Instinct and Mighty Guard and go get more spells to make the tedious task you have even faster too.

    You're acting like this is some personal affront toward you or other players, when it's nothing of the sort. You don't even enter into the equation. Blue Mage is fun, the spells are fun to use and they make a tedious task go faster. Not using it would only slow things down.

    Work smarter, not harder.

    Or, sure, fill up your limited blacklist with players who've done nothing to you, don't even care about you at all, see how well that goes for you in a few months.
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  7. #277
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Like I said, I do play Blue Mage, but it's not worth putting up with *other* Blue Mages or possibly being a hindrance to non-Blue Mages, so I avoid both by staying on Maduin and farming FATEs late at night when I'm fairly sure of being alone. The problem is I still run into the occasional band of "travelers" who nuke things before I arrive, or non-Blues who become immediately repulsed by me being there and mount back up and fly to the next FATE. In both cases, I've gotten some not-so-nice tells and emotes sent my way and the only recourse was to blacklist+move to a different zone (while possibly getting blacklisted myself despite saying nothing, I was simply "wrong place at the wrong time").

    This entire event has done wonders to dispel any notion I had of a "super friendly playerbase," and all it took was some limited time goofy looking minions/mounts/weapons, lol.
    Honestly, this community is why I missed most of Heavensward. Everyone tows the lie of positivity until you ger verbally harassed or stalked. Luckily, I got my lumps earlier. ARR and HW were super toxic. Honestly, Blue Mages acting like children can't even compare. My best friend, who is a damn saint, has a list he started keeping because everyone would say how friendly and nice everyone was. What his list was when people would tell him to uninstall or for lack of a better verbage restart his life. My friend barely speaks in game chats. He types too slow. Think millennial boomer normie, and that's him. So if he refuses to play this game because it's too toxic, I tend to believe him.
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  8. #278
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    Erzaa's Avatar
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    Erzaa Skarlett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    It's just toxic players and bad actors. An easy fix would be to make FATE mobs immune to insta kill spells, Missle, etc. Just make them miss. Blue Mage can still do it to nornal mobs and dungeons, etc. That way, it's not emboldening players to go out and nuke FATEs.
    The insta kill combo is only possible once every 2 minutes. Missile has a chance to miss and all it does is soften the mobs up, you're well within your rights to just hit the mobs once they've been softened, nobody is stopping you.

    There's absolutely nothing toxic about players playing the game as intended. Adapt, you can go get your blue mage and do the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    Or, at the very least, find a way to scale them better. Nobody would be screaming on Reddit or the forums if Blue Mages were slightly faster, etc. There's a big difference between slighly faster and instant.
    There's very very few blue mages who instantly end FATEs, and those are only ARR boss FATEs where that's possible. Please don't hyperbolise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    My condolences to anyone who is still dealing with this. I got mine done week 2, but I would suggest Dynamis or OCE. OCE realms were pretty good for prime time since they were just waking up.
    Anyone who's willing to put in any time to farm the weapons can get the event done on any job, regardless of the blue mages. It's 10 medals per weapon and the drop rate isn't that bad. One weapon a day is easily doable in 2-3 hours of gameplay and you'd be done in 17 days.

    Again, this is all hyperbole.
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  9. #279
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    The insta kill combo is only possible once every 2 minutes. Missile has a chance to miss and all it does is soften the mobs up, you're well within your rights to just hit the mobs once they've been softened, nobody is stopping you.

    There's absolutely nothing toxic about players playing the game as intended. Adapt, you can go get your blue mage and do the same thing.


    There's very very few blue mages who instantly end FATEs, and those are only ARR boss FATEs where that's possible. Please don't hyperbolise.


    Anyone who's willing to put in any time to farm the weapons can get the event done on any job, regardless of the blue mages. It's 10 medals per weapon and the drop rate isn't that bad. One weapon a day is easily doable in 2-3 hours of gameplay and you'd be done in 17 days.

    Again, this is all hyperbole.
    There's a big difference between sharing and taking. That's all I'm going to say.
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  10. #280
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    It is griefing no matter you look upon it as in no way of being able to competete without having to have some optional none gameplay based side job.
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