Yo-Kai Event: BLU Major Griefing Problem

[Aidorouge]

I don't think you understand how blacklisting will work.

As it stands, it makes you unable to see anything that someone says/emotes, and later on it turns people outright invisible outside of instanced content. Which makes sense really, a lot of Blue Mages pretend you don't exist, and when they do notice you, it's just to send rude tells/emotes anyway. So making them disappear and silent seems ideal.

"But the player will still appear inside of instanced content when playing other jobs."

Yes, but I don't have to put up with anything they say there either, and it's just as well since there's a pretty good chance they weren't going to say anything nice or helpful anyway. (Case in point: This very topic.) Admittedly I've used Blue Mage myself for farming FATEs, but I've been doing it mostly on my nigh-dead home server late at night to avoid *other* Blue Mages (for reasons already stated), *and* to avoid non-Blue Mages because I already know how they're going to react to my very presence (even though I don't have whatever spell it is that shatters frozen enemies) and well, fair next I guess, because that's the kind of sentiment the community helped to foster about this event and I'm not magically exempt from the same treatment if I get blacklisted too just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Taliriah]

As it stands, it makes you unable to see anything that someone says/emotes, and later on it turns people outright invisible outside of instanced content. Which makes sense really, a lot of Blue Mages pretend you don't exist, and when they do notice you, it's just to send rude tells/emotes anyway. So making them disappear and silent seems ideal.

I mean they'll still be around killing mobs, only you won't see them. I have no idea how this will supposedly help you in any way but suit yourself.

[Aidorouge]

I mean they'll still be around killing mobs, only you won't see them. I have no idea how this will supposedly help you in any way but suit yourself.

It's not like there's any alternatives to dealing with the situation, and it's obviously not going to get better as it goes on, so this is the best I can do.

[Taliriah]

It's not like there's any alternatives to dealing with the situation

There is: play a blue mage yourself, so you can keep up with the speed at which they clear fates.

[Aidorouge]

There is: play a blue mage yourself, so you can keep up with the speed at which they clear fates.

Like I said, I do play Blue Mage, but it's not worth putting up with *other* Blue Mages or possibly being a hindrance to non-Blue Mages, so I avoid both by staying on Maduin and farming FATEs late at night when I'm fairly sure of being alone. The problem is I still run into the occasional band of "travelers" who nuke things before I arrive, or non-Blues who become immediately repulsed by me being there and mount back up and fly to the next FATE. In both cases, I've gotten some not-so-nice tells and emotes sent my way and the only recourse was to blacklist+move to a different zone (while possibly getting blacklisted myself despite saying nothing, I was simply "wrong place at the wrong time").

This entire event has done wonders to dispel any notion I had of a "super friendly playerbase" and all it took was some limited time goofy looking minions/mounts/weapons, lol.

[Ardeth]

Like I said, I do play Blue Mage, but it's not worth putting up with *other* Blue Mages or possibly being a hindrance to non-Blue Mages, so I avoid both by staying on Maduin and farming FATEs late at night when I'm fairly sure of being alone. The problem is I still run into the occasional band of "travelers" who nuke things before I arrive, or non-Blues who become immediately repulsed by me being there and mount back up and fly to the next FATE. In both cases, I've gotten some not-so-nice tells and emotes sent my way and the only recourse was to blacklist+move to a different zone (while possibly getting blacklisted myself despite saying nothing, I was simply "wrong place at the wrong time").

This entire event has done wonders to dispel any notion I had of a "super friendly playerbase," and all it took was some limited time goofy looking minions/mounts/weapons, lol.

Honestly, this community is why I missed most of Heavensward. Everyone tows the lie of positivity until you ger verbally harassed or stalked. Luckily, I got my lumps earlier. ARR and HW were super toxic. Honestly, Blue Mages acting like children can't even compare. My best friend, who is a damn saint, has a list he started keeping because everyone would say how friendly and nice everyone was. What his list was when people would tell him to uninstall or for lack of a better verbage restart his life. My friend barely speaks in game chats. He types too slow. Think millennial boomer normie, and that's him. So if he refuses to play this game because it's too toxic, I tend to believe him.

[Erzaa]

It's not like there's any alternatives to dealing with the situation, and it's obviously not going to get better as it goes on, so this is the best I can do.

Blue Mage is a job that exists in the game. It has limited uses, doing FATEs quickly is one of the very few uses it has. FATEs are already mind numbingly boring as it is, why wouldn't people want to make something tedious go faster?

The crazy part is that nobody even cares about FATEs, barely anybody does them outside of relics or a few rewards in ShB and EW, and Blue Mage being able to melt them was considered a bonus before this event. Now all of a sudden, Blue Mage is the Boogeyman.

Other blue mage players didn't pay extra for the job, it's not like we have some privilege or access to something you don't. It's right there, you've unlocked it, you've gotten it to level 70, you've got 50 spells already.

In all the time you're wasting complaining about blue mages, a legitimate job that's in the game, you could go grab Aetheric Mimicry, Basic Instinct and Mighty Guard and go get more spells to make the tedious task you have even faster too.

You're acting like this is some personal affront toward you or other players, when it's nothing of the sort. You don't even enter into the equation. Blue Mage is fun, the spells are fun to use and they make a tedious task go faster. Not using it would only slow things down.

Work smarter, not harder.

Or, sure, fill up your limited blacklist with players who've done nothing to you, don't even care about you at all, see how well that goes for you in a few months.

[Aidorouge]

Or, sure, fill up your limited blacklist with players who've done nothing to you, don't even care about you at all, see how well that goes for you in a few months.

These people were already having a negative impact, not sure how blacklisting them makes it "worse" for me, lol.

And like you said, they don't care (and they shouldn't), which means nothing was lost on their end or mine when they get added so everyone wins. Hell, I've probably been blacklisted *myself* for being caught blue-handed, so even if there was a downside to being added, I would have to deal with it too and acknowledge it's the "best they can do" as well.