Yo-Kai Event: BLU Major Griefing Problem

[Aidorouge]

Or, sure, fill up your limited blacklist with players who've done nothing to you, don't even care about you at all, see how well that goes for you in a few months.

These people were already having a negative impact, not sure how blacklisting them makes it "worse" for me, lol.

And like you said, they don't care (and they shouldn't), which means nothing was lost on their end or mine when they get added so everyone wins. Hell, I've probably been blacklisted *myself* for being caught blue-handed, so even if there was a downside to being added, I would have to deal with it too and acknowledge it's the "best they can do" as well.

[Erzaa]

It is griefing no matter you look upon it as in no way of being able to competete without having to have some optional none gameplay based side job.

I didn't complete Savage Eden so I didn't get the 4 person mount. Those Savage raiders are griefing me.

If you didn't put the time into leveling a job, for whatever reason (you don't care, it's optional, you've no interest in it, whatever...), that's your decision.

And it still doesn't block anyone from completing anything. As long as you get to the FATE, get a few hits in, get your participation to be silver or gold medal, you get a chance at a medal drop.

You can make 10 medals per day very easily in 2-3 hours of gameplay, blue mages or no blue mages, and finish the event in 17 days. The event lasts until the end of June. Nobody's being left out, unless they choose to be left out.

As for non-gameplay job, this just tells me that you don't play the job much. Level 80 blue mage moon flute opener needs so many buttons to be pressed so fast I can't even do most of it correctly.

[Ardeth]

I didn't complete Savage Eden so I didn't get the 4 person mount. Those Savage raiders are griefing me.

If you didn't put the time into leveling a job, for whatever reason (you don't care, it's optional, you've no interest in it, whatever...), that's your decision.

And it still doesn't block anyone from completing anything. As long as you get to the FATE, get a few hits in, get your participation to be silver or gold medal, you get a chance at a medal drop.

You can make 10 medals per day very easily in 2-3 hours of gameplay, blue mages or no blue mages, and finish the event in 17 days. The event lasts until the end of June. Nobody's being left out, unless they choose to be left out.

As for non-gameplay job, this just tells me that you don't play the job much. Level 80 blue mage moon flute opener needs so many buttons to be pressed so fast I can't even do most of it correctly.

On mobile, this is a nightmare to format, so excuse the crudeness of my reply.

Your first paragraph isn't the same thing. If you have a mount, which is also a stupid argument, would've been better. Even if both are terrible in general. Somebody having something you don't have isn't griefing. Now, if I traded to you and made it to where you couldn't mount and missed the FATE, that's greifing.

Your second one isn't much better. It ignores Atma farming or personal choice. Under normal circumstances, neither would be affected by this event and be able to be used in service of each other, but people are selfish, and here we are.

Your third paragraph is mostly correct. Most people I saw were stopping to complain instead of trying to get silver. I fought tooth and nail because I didn't want to keep doing this event. Let's face it this event sucks as it is.

The rest I agree with and / or don't care enough to comment on.

[VerdeLuck]

It surprises me how people are still doing this on Dynamis a month into the event. I still make PFs daily to try to farm this and I'm fighting BLU and groups of players every single day who refuse to do the bare minimum to coexist.

[Ardeth]

It surprises me how people are still doing this on Dynamis a month into the event. I still make PFs daily to try to farm this and I'm fighting BLU and groups of players every single day who refuse to do the bare minimum to coexist.

That was my initial impetus to even post here about it. I was trying to group and play nice like an adult, and apparently sharing and caring aren't taught in school anymore. I put up party finders made the effort to promote group play, and I was labeled the bad guy.

Sink or swim like I was playing World of Warcraft or something.

But someone will come and post under me using olympic level mental gymnastics to make me who wanted to share look selfish. Mark my words.

[Erzaa]

Your first paragraph isn't the same thing. If you have a mount, which is also a stupid argument, would've been better. Even if both are terrible in general. Somebody having something you don't have isn't griefing.

Wrong. Because all your arguments around blue mage players griefing are silly. They hinge on the idea that my having leveled and playing a job that I enjoy to complete a piece of content that I don't enjoy, as soon as possible, is griefing. They're playing a job you're refusing to play by your own decision. If you refuse to do something in game, you don't get the reward for it, simple as that. Perhaps you should attempt to understand the argument being made before replying to it.

Your second one isn't much better. It ignores Atma farming or personal choice. Under normal circumstances, neither would be affected by this event and be able to be used in service of each other, but people are selfish, and here we are.

Atma farming isn't going anywhere, it's been in the game for a decade, it's going to be here after June too, it's completely irrelevant as an argument. Also, the rating of the FATE has no bearing on Atma drop rates, only if the FATE was successful and you were a part of it matters. Perhaps read the wiki on relics before spouting that off. You can work toward both regardless of blue mages, nobody is griefing you. If anything, if you're Atma farming, you should be following the Blue Mages, whack a mob or two and leave, your chances will be higher since Blue Mages end FATEs quicker.

Your third paragraph is mostly correct. Most people I saw were stopping to complain instead of trying to get silver. I fought tooth and nail because I didn't want to keep doing this event. Let's face it this event sucks as it is.

Well, duh! That's why we're doing the event on Blue Mage. Nobody is griefing you is my point.

[Sesera]

There's very very few blue mages who instantly end FATEs, and those are only ARR boss FATEs where that's possible. Please don't hyperbolise.

Good to know they are doing this only on ARR fates that are needed for 13 out 17 weapons.

[Themarvin]

I didn't complete Savage Eden so I didn't get the 4 person mount. Those Savage raiders are griefing me.

If you didn't put the time into leveling a job, for whatever reason (you don't care, it's optional, you've no interest in it, whatever...), that's your decision.

And it still doesn't block anyone from completing anything. As long as you get to the FATE, get a few hits in, get your participation to be silver or gold medal, you get a chance at a medal drop.

You can make 10 medals per day very easily in 2-3 hours of gameplay, blue mages or no blue mages, and finish the event in 17 days. The event lasts until the end of June. Nobody's being left out, unless they choose to be left out.

As for non-gameplay job, this just tells me that you don't play the job much. Level 80 blue mage moon flute opener needs so many buttons to be pressed so fast I can't even do most of it correctly.

That is an entire other thing, completing Savage and Ultimates is only Optional content as well and the rewards in it as well.

We are talking about an event that should be available to all regardless of whatever and using BLU for it is a major exploit that can be used to grief ordinary people and technically can be reported as well.

[Aidorouge]

It surprises me how people are still doing this on Dynamis a month into the event. I still make PFs daily to try to farm this and I'm fighting BLU and groups of players every single day who refuse to do the bare minimum to coexist.

I'm fortunate enough that I got all of the ARR and both Heavensward weapons done, but since I haven't reached Stormblood yet, I can't work on the last two weapons and honestly, I don't feel inclined to rush HW *just* to put up with more of the same issues but in a different expansion's zones.

The event in general makes me feel bad about being on a low-pop data center now too, because it's just that much easier for Travelers to come over and take whatever they want (ironic given how many of them likely came over after *they* got pushed out on their home server), and then the local folks we have get avoidant or hostile with anyone not on their FC/friend list because if they don't "adapt and play the game as intended" (as some Blue Mages call it) by being greedy jerks themselves, they'll continue to get left out.

But someone will come and post under me using olympic level mental gymnastics to make me who wanted to share look selfish. Mark my words.

Man, get a load of this Scrooge, *demanding* people be *considerate* of each other. :P

[Erzaa]

We are talking about an event that should be available to all regardless of whatever and using BLU for it is a major exploit that can be used to grief ordinary people and technically can be reported as well.

It is available to all though. Regardless of the blue mages or not, as long as you go into the FATE, whack the mobs enough to get a silver rank in it, you have a chance at a medal drop. There's still rng in play, you might get lucky, you might get unlucky, but a single weapon is easily doable per day, even on a normal job, in a 3 hour play session.

The blue mages aren't stopping you from farming the event, only you can stop you from farming the event.