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  1. #291
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    Erzaa Skarlett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    Good to know they are doing this only on ARR fates that are needed for 13 out 17 weapons.
    Even in ARR, not all boss FATEs can be one shot. Some can, yes. And most FATEs aren't boss FATEs to begin with. So you're dealing with a minority of blue mages who might do that, in the chance that it was a boss FATE that can be one shot, out of all the FATEs in all the zones in the ARR regions, and calling all blue mages griefers because of it.

    Each medal can be earned in multiple zones, each zone has multiple FATEs, the FATEs respawn at a decently quick rate. Just stop the hyperbole. This entire thread is filled with hyperbolic statements or outright lies.
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  3. #292
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Komi Shouko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erzaa View Post
    Even in ARR, not all boss FATEs can be one shot. Some can, yes. And most FATEs aren't boss FATEs to begin with. So you're dealing with a minority of blue mages who might do that, in the chance that it was a boss FATE that can be one shot, out of all the FATEs in all the zones in the ARR regions, and calling all blue mages griefers because of it.

    Each medal can be earned in multiple zones, each zone has multiple FATEs, the FATEs respawn at a decently quick rate. Just stop the hyperbole. This entire thread is filled with hyperbolic statements or outright lies.
    It doesn't really matter if they are a minority even 1 Blue mage OS a fate before you barely had time to attack is annoying. There is absolutly no excuse for this behavior and yours who defend it. We don't care about its only 2 minutes. Its a few Blue. We want you to stop ruining other people event just for a slightly faster kill. "I act like a jerk but here's why I'm not a bad person" give us a break.
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  4. #293
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    Menriq's Avatar
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    That is an entire other thing, completing Savage and Ultimates is only Optional content as well and the rewards in it as well.

    We are talking about an event that should be available to all regardless of whatever and using BLU for it is a major exploit that can be used to grief ordinary people and technically can be reported as well.
    Just to play devil's advocate, the Yokai Watch is also optional content and the rewards in it as well.
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  5. #294
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    Taliriah's Avatar
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Viper Lv 100
    I have a question. If people intentionally choose extremely inefficient jobs like tanks or healers to grind fates, is it also "griefing" to mow the mobs down as DPS? Should everyone take it slow for their sake?
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  6. #295
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    I have a question. If people intentionally choose extremely inefficient jobs like tanks or healers to grind fates, is it also "griefing" to mow the mobs down as DPS? Should everyone take it slow for their sake?
    No, because no dps outside of a Blue Mage can end a FATE that fast.

    People should be able to play whatever they want. The issue with that statement is that it doesn't take into account people going into business for themselves. I don't care if a Blue Mage is doing FATEs with me. No big deal, but when that Blue Mage is deleting the FATEs, you have a class balance issue. That unfortunately, people will abuse. The old saying "exploit early exploit often."

    Again, to make it perfectly clear.

    People are mad at the selfish griefing people.

    Not Blue Mages in general. I shouldn't have to play that job to keep up. And if I do, that's bad game design. Intended or not, this comes up every time for a reason. I've seen normie memes about it for a reason. But SquareEnix won't do anything about it because one, they have bigger fish to fry, and two, it would make Blue Mage more of a target than it already is for harassment. I don't think it's right to attack the job. To be fair, I don't think it's right to attack the player either, but if you're being a selfish child hogging all the blocks, I'm going to call you out for it. Strawman or not.
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  7. #296
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    Zira Zira
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    it will never be griefing, it will never be an exploit no matter how much you cry and how many buzzwords you use
    you don't own the fates, it's rule of the fastest out in the overworld, probably missed like 10 fates just typing that
    keep up and also, Beastmaster soon, can't wait until my a Red Comet goes thermonuclear on a fate, it's gonna be great gemstone farming
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  8. #297
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Credit for Fates works on enmity, not damage.

    I soloed everything on drk and got pretty much all gold medals even with blue mages and groups around. I just apply tank stance, throw my weapon (high enmity + range), taunt and either keep throwing my weapon or use aoe to keep building aggro when I am not alone.

    The other good thing with a tank is that all abilities are insta cast and there are ogcds too whereas Blue mage hydro pull, Ram’s voice and ultra vibration, choco meteor are 2s each. With drk I have enough speed and aggro to simply ignore blue mages. I would not do low level fates on a blm during an event because of cast times and lack of abilities to mitigate the long casts at low levels.

    When I am sure I have enough to get full credit, I stop doing damage to give a chance to other players that are around as the low level fates are very fast.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 05-14-2024 at 04:14 AM.

  9. #298
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    That is an entire other thing, completing Savage and Ultimates is only Optional content as well and the rewards in it as well.

    We are talking about an event that should be available to all regardless of whatever and using BLU for it is a major exploit that can be used to grief ordinary people and technically can be reported as well.
    I dont understand you are going to report players that are using something that the game provided is crazy. I think you need to take step back. Mind you this is a optional side content that anyone can do.
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  10. #299
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxion View Post
    I dont understand you are going to report players that are using something that the game provided is crazy. I think you need to take step back. Mind you this is a optional side content that anyone can do.
    By definition, griefing is something you can do using game systems to disrupt other people's play. Much like putting an obsidian block on someone's door or tnting someone's house in Minecraft. It's all stuff the game allows, but any server would ban you if you did it. People make their own rules for certain actions, but it kinda stands the same on its own. Irregardless of the present situation. I'm just adding this. You guys can keep arguing if you want, but I wanted to add that.
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  11. #300
    Player Sesera's Avatar
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    Komi Shouko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxion View Post
    I dont understand you are going to report players that are using something that the game provided is crazy. I think you need to take step back. Mind you this is a optional side content that anyone can do.
    Try to spam holy like an idiot in limsa and see how it goes?
    "But I was just using a spell the game intended me to use"
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